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Could someone be hacking into our internet?

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  • Blackjack_Davy
    Blackjack_Davy Posts: 578 Forumite
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    edited 21 March 2011 at 12:36AM
    mamazaac wrote: »
    No, it is not him, at least not because he's doing something secretly. I check up on him as well as him telling me what he's doing.

    Oh the innocence of parents. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard around here that little Johhny wouldn't let butter melt in his mouth, whereas in fact he's busy downloading the entire internet on his Xbox, I'd be a very rich man. Or at least less poor than I am now.

    Bless 'em.
    Blessed are the geeks, for they shall inherit the Internet.
  • mamazaac
    mamazaac Posts: 659 Forumite
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    Oh the innocence of parents. If I had a pound for everytime I've heard around here that little Johhny wouldn't let butter melt in his mouth, whereas in fact he's busy downloading the entire internet on his Xbox, I'd be a very rich man. Or at least less poor than I am now.

    Bless 'em.

    I have already responded to such comments earlier in the thread. More fool you and those others for not keeping an eye on things and blindly believing their offspring can do no wrong.
  • ddoris
    ddoris Posts: 392 Forumite
    mamazaac wrote: »
    more fool you and those others for not keeping an eye on things and blindly believing their offspring can do no wrong.

    !!!!!! ???????
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    mamazaac wrote: »
    Thank you, but when I use the conversion tool you gave me (similar to one I used from google earlier), it tells me that 178000 kb is 173.82813 mb, not 17.382 mb as you say. This is why I am confused. If it was 17.382 mb it would be right because the 93.22 shown by my ISP was based on all day, but the netmonitor had only been running for 2.5 hours. But, if it is 173.82 mb, it far exceeds what my ISP is telling me has been used even for the whole of the day up to that point.
    Transfer on ADSL lines is measured in Bits [single binary digits] but this is not a measure of data. Data is measured in bytes [conventionally 8 bits in a byte]. Because of transmision overheads [headers on data packets], it takes about 10 bits ADSL traffic to move 1 byte of data.

    Maybe some of the confusion is that one measurement is in bits and the other in bytes?
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  • esuhl
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    Transfer on ADSL lines is measured in Bits... but this is not a measure of data. Data is measured in bytes...

    Data are just numbers. ADSLs are used to transmit/receive data, but obviously there needs to be a universal standard (TCP/IP) so that devices with different internal encoding standards can communicate (e.g. a Windows PC can communicate with a Linux server, etc.).

    Clearly ADSLs are used for transmitting/receiving data, so it doesn't make sense to say that data are not counted in bits!

    Your quote above is like saying that "Chocolate bars are priced in pence, but that isn't a measure of money. Money is measured in pounds."
  • mamazaac
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    Thanks to networx think have found out what is causing the problem. In my son's IT lesson at school they had been teaching them to build games using a program we can't get at home. My son had found a website - sploder.com - which would allow you to build your own games and, as I thought it would support what he was learning at school and norton safe web said it was ok, I didn't think there would be a problem. Found out yesterday though, bandwidth usage when using this site is mega high, so seems that was the culprit.

    Thanks for all the helpful answers given above.:)
  • It was always going to be the kid wot done it.:laugh:
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    esuhl wrote: »
    Data are just numbers. ADSLs are used to transmit/receive data, but obviously there needs to be a universal standard (TCP/IP) so that devices with different internal encoding standards can communicate (e.g. a Windows PC can communicate with a Linux server, etc.).

    Clearly ADSLs are used for transmitting/receiving data, so it doesn't make sense to say that data are not counted in bits!

    Your quote above is like saying that "Chocolate bars are priced in pence, but that isn't a measure of money. Money is measured in pounds."
    The important point is that transmission is measured in bits and data in bytes.

    The price of chocolate statement is not a fair analogy. But I'll provide an analogy of what you are saying: "Writing is comprised of pen strokes. The measure of the quantity of literature is the number of pen strokes".
    Data has meaning. It is only when bits are put together as bytes that they mean anything.
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  • esuhl
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    The important point is that transmission is measured in bits and data in bytes.

    "Transmission" is the transmission of data. Both locally stored data and transmitted data can be measured in whatever appropriate units you like - bits, bytes, nibbles... It is, however, more common to measure network speeds in (multiples of) bits per second, and to measure disk space in (multiples of) bytes.
    Data has meaning. It is only when bits are put together as bytes that they mean anything.

    Not true: data are abstractions devoid of inherent meaning. A measurement combined with meaning would be called "information". For example: 2, 19, 12 and 87 are data; "the speed of the last three moving vehicles I observed were travelling at 2km/h, 19km/h, 12km/h and 87km/h" is information.
  • debitcardmayhem
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    esuhl wrote: »
    "Transmission" is the transmission of data. Both locally stored data and transmitted data can be measured in whatever appropriate units you like - bits, bytes, nibbles... It is, however, more common to measure network speeds in (multiples of) bits per second, and to measure disk space in (multiples of) bytes.



    Not true: data are abstractions devoid of inherent meaning. A measurement combined with meaning would be called "information". For example: 2, 19, 12 and 87 are data; "the speed of the last three moving vehicles I observed were travelling at 2km/h, 19km/h, 12km/h and 87km/h" is information.

    For information the data you supplied had 4 observations and your summation was only for three. This does not compute, you will be assimilated, however as it is not friday we will move on and carry out our checks for spelling, but be warned we will be back and you will be assimilated.
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