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Earthquake (8.9magnitude) & Tsunami hits Tokyo

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  • Mr_Mumble
    Mr_Mumble Posts: 1,758 Forumite
    Watching NHK at the mo, the blast in the no.2 reactor seems to be worse than the previous explosions. The suppression pool at the bottom of the containment vessel is damaged. Radiation leak was 3x human safety limits (though supposedly quickly dropped). Workers have been evacuated except for those working on cooling the reactors.

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  • Degenerate
    Degenerate Posts: 2,166 Forumite
    1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »
    I guess it just depends on how the wind is blowing & where you are on the planet....

    That only matters if there is a significant leak of radioactive material. A meltdown may remain contained. Whether things melt or not is not the significant issue.
  • Mr_Mumble
    Mr_Mumble Posts: 1,758 Forumite
    Reactor no.4 (which isn't operational but has nuclear fuel) is now on fire :(
    "The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.
  • 1984ReturnsForReal_2
    1984ReturnsForReal_2 Posts: 15,431 Forumite
    Degenerate wrote: »
    That only matters if there is a significant leak of radioactive material. A meltdown may remain contained. Whether things melt or not is not the significant issue.


    I take it if you lived in Japan right now you wouldn't be looking at the weather forecast & seeing which way the wind was blowing.

    Perhaps even taking shallower breaths?


    There is a lot more to it than thinking from a distance.
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  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
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    Considering that radiation levels have been measured to be 20 times higher than normal in Tokyo, and that a US carrier measured radiation when it was 120 miles out to sea, one can assume that there has been some leaking of radiation into the atmosphere.
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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,574 Forumite
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    Yes. It looks like reactor 4's fuel was in a storage pond which ran empty - why, how, how come nobody refilled it?

    The people left on site are being pretty heroic.
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  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Yes. It looks like reactor 4's fuel was in a storage pond which ran empty - why, how, how come nobody refilled it?

    The people left on site are being pretty heroic.

    What has been reported is that the pumps were broken during the earthquake.
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  • 1984ReturnsForReal_2
    1984ReturnsForReal_2 Posts: 15,431 Forumite
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Yes. It looks like reactor 4's fuel was in a storage pond which ran empty - why, how, how come nobody refilled it?


    Because all of the pipework in & out & around is no longer......
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  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    Degenerate wrote: »
    That only matters if there is a significant leak of radioactive material. A meltdown may remain contained. Whether things melt or not is not the significant issue.


    but in this case the containment has been breached hence the radioactivity escaping in higher levels than the previous steam release (which is often an emergency step to release pressure).

    so in this case there has been a meltdown that has not been contained.

    http://www.bellona.org/articles/articles_2011/apparent_breach
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  • lemonjelly
    lemonjelly Posts: 8,014 Forumite
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12756366

    Cameron strikes again, & tries to blame everyone else rather than accept responsibility.
    It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
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