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Time to start a thread on public sector pensions

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  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Mortgage-free Glee! PPI Party Pooper
    Mr_Mumble wrote: »
    The OBR has a breakdown in this, slightly out-of-date, pdf. Given an increase in contributions and change from RPI to CPI the OBR now estimate a net cost of £7bn in 2014-15 (see page 6 and 40 of this doc) for centrally managed schemes (i.e. NHS, Teachers, Armed Forces and Civil Service but not Police, Firefighters, Scottish & NI executives that come from other budgets).

    Crikey. So the cost of unfunded civil service pensions is forecast to rise to more than 1/4 of the cost of all tax credits and cost more than is taken in from all vehicle excise receipts. That's without the police, fire service or LGPA pensions factored in. Have I got that right?
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • Andy_L wrote: »
    You appear to have forgotton to mention how much overtime/shift premium/unsocial hours they get for 12.5hr shifts
    no, that is the normal shift time and i also forgot to mention the unpaid overtime that gets put in, you cant just walk away when its hometime y'know...
    Save £12k in 2012 no.49 £10,250/£12,000
    Save £12k in 2013 no.34 £11,800/£12,000
    'How much can you save' thread = £7,050
    Total=£29,100
    Mfi3 no. 88: Balance Jan '06 = £63,000. :mad:
    Balance 23.11.09 = £nil. :)
  • ILW wrote: »
    Why does being a middle management pen pusher in the NHS knacker you?


    since when has being a staff nurse been a pen pushing job????

    you are having a laff mate!
    Save £12k in 2012 no.49 £10,250/£12,000
    Save £12k in 2013 no.34 £11,800/£12,000
    'How much can you save' thread = £7,050
    Total=£29,100
    Mfi3 no. 88: Balance Jan '06 = £63,000. :mad:
    Balance 23.11.09 = £nil. :)
  • mbga9pgf wrote: »
    Speak for yourself. Whats the point of keeping old has beens on the scene to effectively keep on with a declining quality of life? I personally would prefer better pensions provision with the opt in to be euthanised at the age of 85. Chance to say goodbye to your family, maintain a decent quality of life, then end it before I start losing my marbles and dribbling pea soup down my chin.

    Not possible? Watch this space. Once the religious nutters are bypassed and the swiss clinic treatment becomes more widespread, I would hope that such an option wouldbecome possible if available.


    your choice (even though its illegal) although I'd bet there are many out there who would love to step in and do it for you before you hit 85...
    Save £12k in 2012 no.49 £10,250/£12,000
    Save £12k in 2013 no.34 £11,800/£12,000
    'How much can you save' thread = £7,050
    Total=£29,100
    Mfi3 no. 88: Balance Jan '06 = £63,000. :mad:
    Balance 23.11.09 = £nil. :)
  • quite taken aback at some opinions on here, some people have no idea what they are talking about! Have these people ever had a relationship with another human being who they care enough about to worry about them? Have they ever experienced ill health? Have they ever been on a hospital ward? Quite astonishing!
    Save £12k in 2012 no.49 £10,250/£12,000
    Save £12k in 2013 no.34 £11,800/£12,000
    'How much can you save' thread = £7,050
    Total=£29,100
    Mfi3 no. 88: Balance Jan '06 = £63,000. :mad:
    Balance 23.11.09 = £nil. :)
  • Andy_L
    Andy_L Posts: 13,080 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    no, that is the normal shift time and i also forgot to mention the unpaid overtime that gets put in, you cant just walk away when its hometime y'know...

    So somebody on 11.5hr shifts gets paid the same as someone on 9-5 then?
  • Andy_L wrote: »
    So somebody on 11.5hr shifts gets paid the same as someone on 9-5 then?

    yes, its the amount of hours you do per week. Unsocial hours start at 10pm and finish at 7am so if you work a 7am till 7.30pm shift there are no extra payments. Surely no-one has a problem with unsocial hours payments for xmas day etc?
    Save £12k in 2012 no.49 £10,250/£12,000
    Save £12k in 2013 no.34 £11,800/£12,000
    'How much can you save' thread = £7,050
    Total=£29,100
    Mfi3 no. 88: Balance Jan '06 = £63,000. :mad:
    Balance 23.11.09 = £nil. :)
  • Andy_L
    Andy_L Posts: 13,080 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    yes, its the amount of hours you do per week. Unsocial hours start at 10pm and finish at 7am so if you work a 7am till 7.30pm shift there are no extra payments. Surely no-one has a problem with unsocial hours payments for xmas day etc?

    Ah, so the person on shift isn't doing more hours/week then, the're just compressing it into less days. eg if they do 5 days of 7-7.30 they will get paid more than someone doing 5 days of 9-5
  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    no, that is the normal shift time and i also forgot to mention the unpaid overtime that gets put in, you cant just walk away when its hometime y'know...
    Andy_L wrote: »
    Ah, so the person on shift isn't doing more hours/week then, the're just compressing it into less days. eg if they do 5 days of 7-7.30 they will get paid more than someone doing 5 days of 9-5


    A friend of my daughter's is a full time general hospital staff nurse. She works 3 x 12 hour days and then has 4 days off. This is her weekly work pattern and I understand she's happy with it.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Alright here's the skinny on the public sector pensions. Working in the public sector you dont get bonuses, any sort of incentivised perk, or a lot of career development. What you are meant to get is job security and a decent pension.

    A lot of people on here take umbrage at that because they are in the private sector, but then again 73% of the posters on here's contribution to the private sector involves repeating the words "do you want fries with that?" over and over again.
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