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Are people like me middle class?

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  • diable
    diable Posts: 5,258 Forumite
    Cleaver wrote: »
    Agreed. My wife was brought up by a single mother on a rough council estate and left school at 16 without a qualification. She now has a good job, has taken qualifications as an adult and lives a very nice life. She's incredibly intelligent, well spoken and cultured. What class is she? I really have no clue.
    Is she called Cheryl Tweedy by any chance?
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    diable wrote: »
    Is she called Cheryl Tweedy by any chance?

    Would you say that Cheryl Tweedy has qualifications and is well spoken, cultured and intelligent?
  • Eskimo12345
    Eskimo12345 Posts: 147 Forumite
    Some very interesting responses here that are definitely making me rethink my definitions of class :)

    I guess that due to social mobility, class is perhaps an outdated concept. An attempt to define class by wealth would result in certain footballers and celebrities labelled as upper middle class which would render the whole system comically irrelevant. An attempt to define class any other way would probably end up in another daft definition, with classy people on minimum wage and vile unclassy people with millions in the bank.

    As for a large telly being chavtastic - each to their own. Even a 42" would look like a digital photo frame in my LOUNGE ;)
    I am not really an Eskimo. I can hear what you're thinking... "Inuit!"
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Cleaver wrote: »
    Do they have classes in Scotland? Or is everyone just Scottish?

    Och Aye....

    They have porridge making classes, benefits claiming classes, p1ss taking classes, how-to-hate-the-english classes, deep fried Mars Bar classes, how-to-lose-at-football classes, etc....

    Once you've mastered them all, you're officially just Scottish.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    Och Aye....

    They have porridge making classes, benefits claiming classes, p1ss taking classes, how-to-hate-the-english classes, deep fried Mars Bar classes, how-to-lose-at-football classes, etc....

    Once you've mastered them all, you're officially just Scottish.

    You know what Hamish? I have never eaten a deep-fried Mars Bar, despite spending quite a bit of time in Scotland. I need to remedy that.
  • Eskimo12345
    Eskimo12345 Posts: 147 Forumite
    diable wrote: »
    If you have a job you are working therefore working class, at 29 you have no real assets apart from depreciating ones. What is your net worth by adding up what you own?

    If I were to sell everything, about £25k at a conservative estimate.

    And Hamish, let's try to stay on topic.
    I am not really an Eskimo. I can hear what you're thinking... "Inuit!"
  • toby3000
    toby3000 Posts: 316 Forumite
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    Frankly.....its not important today....not to the majority. Nor should it be. Cleaver's right, its too complicated now..e.g..if my working class done good father had married into landed and title family ...what does that make me? And my sister, whose father could be less humble than mine? Are my mother's children different classes? Does it change if she is unemployed on welfare and I am not? ....all far from clear cut.

    It's always been like that, industrialists with no heritage marrying into the upper classes.

    I think class is as important as it's ever been in Britain to be honest.

    I can't multi-quote, but 'Lounge' is meant to be one of the instant indicators of being lower-middle class- non-U and all that:p
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Cleaver wrote: »
    You know what Hamish? I have never eaten a deep-fried Mars Bar, despite spending quite a bit of time in Scotland. I need to remedy that.

    I'll confess to eating half of one once.... Mrs McT didn't believe they existed, so I had to take her out for one.

    They're sort of like babies...... All gooey and sweet, but you couldn't possibly eat a whole one.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • terryw
    terryw Posts: 4,396 Forumite
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    Definitely not!

    A middle class person would say:

    "Are people such as I middle class"
    "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
    Extract from "If" by Rudyard Kipling
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    If I were to sell everything, about £25k at a conservative estimate.

    Blimey, you've spent 1.2% of your entire wealth on an alarm clock.
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