We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Tennent damage & i hold deposit but...

13»

Comments

  • N79
    N79 Posts: 2,615 Forumite
    Soniclord wrote: »
    Therefore after reading the above I believe if you do protect it now its still too late to protect the deposit as I'm pretty certain the 14 days is up!

    No - the high court reached a different conclusion in Draycott vs Hannells and ruled that failure to comply with the 14 day "rule" was not a bar to successfully defending a claim by late registration (as one solicitor but it, this is the 14 days, 2 years, whenever ruling). The High court did rule that any scheme rules had to be complied with but since the DPS has no such rules late protection is very much open to the LL.

    In this case, since the OP lacks the paperwork to get the DPS to authorise a deduction there is probably no point in now protecting the deposit. The OP may as well just hand it back to the T (as without a signed inventory this is almost certainly what the DPS will do eventually).
  • BitterAndTwisted
    BitterAndTwisted Posts: 22,492 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Possibly, but the landlord would be entitled to withhold all of the deposit against any unpaid rent, wouldn't they? The tenant hasn't properly surrendered the property yet and may fail to do so.

    Of course, the OP has declined to answer any questions asked about whether there was a fixed-term AST and I suspect that the answer would be "no" given the information already given previously
  • N79
    N79 Posts: 2,615 Forumite
    Possibly, but the landlord would be entitled to withhold all of the deposit against any unpaid rent, wouldn't they? The tenant hasn't properly surrendered the property yet and may fail to do so.

    Of course, the OP has declined to answer any questions asked about whether there was a fixed-term AST and I suspect that the answer would be "no" given the information already given previously
    I missed any mention of rent arrears. If they exist then it would be worth protecting and then claiming the deposit.
  • mynameisdave
    mynameisdave Posts: 1,284 Forumite
    diable wrote: »
    There are people you could speak to that could get you your money back for the damage but you need to leave your conscience and morals out of it. I look at it that if in business you protect your interests and if someone fcuks you over you fcuk them over X 2, it may not sit pretty with most people on here but thats life if you want to survive.

    Its life, if you want to end up in jail. OP knows where the LL lives (or should do if the tenancy was done properly) and has caused £8,000 of damage/rent arears. Is also using false names to take out utilities and possibly other services.

    Your solution? Start messing about with them.

    Quite possibly the worst solution available.
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    OP says the tenant left 4 months early - i wou ld just keep the deposit and wait for them to take you to court.... they wont... they have done a runner after putting utility bills in false names.. they are scammers....
  • Mark09
    Mark09 Posts: 14 Forumite
    It is a fixed term 12 month AST contract. No agent just AST between 2 parties. BUT the AST does make reference to an agent which at the last minute was withdrawn - any loop hole here?

    Someone mentioned i can still deposit into TDS - any thoughts?

    Although they neer signed the Inventory i do still have before and after photos which if needed could be identified as true in court or through a TDS - yes?

    Clutton - your correct they are scammers and i should play there game.

    Even if i did give back the full deposit to the T, i can still take them to small caims = CCJ. CCJ's = failed credit checks for future renting
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 259.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.