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Changing lock on a rented property, little clarification needed
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Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »The OP is in a rented house and has, as a result, no way of knowing who does/doesn't have a set of keys. The people hanging about outside may well have keys to the old locks.
As for seeking permission/notifying the LL? No need. The LL would only ever find out if they tried to gain access without the tenant being there. That would be very naughty so I'm sure they won't. Old barrels go back on at the end of the tenancy and everyone is happy.
The OP is in a rented house and has, as a result, no way of knowing who does/doesn't have a set of keys.
Isn't it normally just the LL?!!!
The people hanging about outside may well have keys to the old locks.
Who are these people hanging about outside who have entry to the property?!!
Old tenants, LL's ?
If a dodgy neighbourhood no amount of lock changing will alter the fact that the OP doesn't feel secure. So my advice is move out. Good luck OP.
"Life is difficult. Life is a series of problems. What makes life difficult is that the process of confronting and solving problems is a painful one." M Scott Peck. The Road Less Travelled.0 -
The OP is in a rented house and has, as a result, no way of knowing who does/doesn't have a set of keys.
Isn't it normally just the LL?!!!
The people hanging about outside may well have keys to the old locks.
Who are these people hanging about outside who have entry to the property?!!
Old tenants, LL's ?
If a dodgy neighbourhood no amount of lock changing will alter the fact that the OP doesn't feel secure. So my advice is move out. Good luck OP.
The Tenant is commited to a rent liability for the duration of his tenancy (min 6 months). For the sake of a change to the lock barrel, he will feel more secure, so that may be the better way to go rather than just leaving and accepting that he will continue to pay/accrue recoverable debt until the tenancy ends.
As you answered both my points with a question, I assume that even YOU don't know who has/hasn't got keys to the OPs home.0 -
The OP is in a rented house and has, as a result, no way of knowing who does/doesn't have a set of keys.
Isn't it normally just the LL?!!!
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If a dodgy neighbourhood no amount of lock changing will alter the fact that the OP doesn't feel secure. So my advice is move out. Good luck OP.
Greenie I thought you knew about renting? You ask who has keys?
* the landlord
* his agent
* the plumber the LL sent round 6 months ago to fix the sink (never returned it)
* the landlord's brother (in case LL is on holiday)
* the last tenant
*the last tenant's baby-sitter
* the last tenant's alienated ex-boyfriend
* the tenant before the last
* etc
As a landlord, I always change lock barrels between tenants, but I know I'm in the minority - most LLs don't.
As for moving, that may be best advice when the Fixed Term expires, but till then the tenant needs to feel secure.0 -
It surely makes sense to always change the locks of any home you move into - rented or bought.
People get spare keys cut, and they can end up anywhere.
Lin You can tell a lot about a woman by her hands..........for instance, if they are placed around your throat, she's probably slightly upset.
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Do you have permission from your LL to change the locks? Will the undesirables hanging around your area suddenly disappear if you change the locks? Did you check the area before moving in?
The person in your garden I assume had a key to your property, hence the need to change locks?! Your logic doesn't make sense. I have had weirdos in my garden before. Fortunately they didn't have keys to my property so once they went I didn't need to change my locks, but made sure the house was securely shut before retiring to bed. And I called the Police.
It's not whether or not they'd disappear, but I don't know who they are or why they were hanging around my area so I'm going to make sure my home is secure. That's the point here. Also how do you know that the person you had in your garden didn't have a key? Did you ask? And if you did do you really think they'd have said yes.
The area is fine and yes I did check it before I moved in and I've also spoken to one of the neighbours who said he's lived here for the last 5 years and it's a quiet area.
Oh and for the record my logic makes perfect sense. As far as I'm concerned anyone in my garden could potentially have a key to my house! I heard the last tenants in this house were an absolute nightmare and were forced to leave by the courts. It could have been one of them in the garden. And in the inventory (done on the day I moved in) it says there was a silver bin in the kitchen, but when I'd got the keys and come to the house the silver bin that was supposedly in the kitchen wasn't there....
And it was later that day when I saw someone in the garden as I pulled upto the house in the van I'd hired for the day and when he saw the van he scarpered! So maybe he had a key! I'm not to know, so it makes sense to change the locks.Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »The OP is in a rented house and has, as a result, no way of knowing who does/doesn't have a set of keys. The people hanging about outside may well have keys to the old locks.
As for seeking permission/notifying the LL? No need. The LL would only ever find out if they tried to gain access without the tenant being there. That would be very naughty so I'm sure they won't. Old barrels go back on at the end of the tenancy and everyone is happy.
Exactly.
I'm not to know whose got a key or who hasn't but I'll know when I change the locks that only me and my other half will have a key.
And just so everyone knows I won't be notifying the landlord nor giving him or the agent a key because as that would completely defeat the object of changing the locks FOR SECURITY.. The landlord hasn't given me a key to his home nor I presume has he given one to the fire services in case of a fire! The agent uses the excuse of what if the house is on fire or their's an emergency but that's crap! If that was the case then every household would have to give insurance companies and the fire department etc a key. You know just in caseYou don't by any chance also have a yale lock on the door? Quite common to have both.
No it only has one lock on the door.PasturesNew wrote: »Also get a lock bolt, some anti-burglar strips for the tops of the gate and a security light (which can be wireless).
http://www.livesafe.co.uk/Prikka-Brick-Strip_webpage.htm
Thanks for that I'll take a look later on.The OP is in a rented house and has, as a result, no way of knowing who does/doesn't have a set of keys.
Isn't it normally just the LL?!!!
Yeah course it is :cool: Don't be so daft.The people hanging about outside may well have keys to the old locks.
Who are these people hanging about outside who have entry to the property?!!
Old tenants, LL's ?
Who knows who the dodgy people are! Hence why I'm changing the locks!If a dodgy neighbourhood no amount of lock changing will alter the fact that the OP doesn't feel secure. So my advice is move out. Good luck OP.
It's not a dodgy neighbourhood but having anyone in the garden would make anyone think what the f*ck not just me. Which is the reason I'm changing the locks.
Thanks for your reply.0 -
Well managed to get the cylinder out and couldn't get it back in until I took out these 2 rubber things that were in the door where the lock goes through as they were blocking me getting the cylinder back in! What are they for and are they important? The lock is securely screwed in and doesn't move at all. I just wondered what these rubber things were for.
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Seals, to keep moisture out.0
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Oops. Any idea how I'd get the seals back in?? And if I can't will it cause any major or even minor problems?? They looked like they'd been there for years! They were very loose which is why they'd fell and were stopping me getting the cylinder back in the door.0
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Did your new barrel come with new rubber bungs and you just didn't notice because they're new and stuck on end ?Inside this body lays one of a skinny woman
but I can usually shut her up with chocolate!
When I thank a post in a thread I've not posted in,
it means that I agree with that post and have nothing further to add.
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Not got the new barrels yet. They should be here tomorrow. I was just making sure I could remove the old one before ordering the new ones. They'll hopefully have the new rubber bungs on then as you say.0
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