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Exactly how does ESA get reduced due to my Private Pension

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  • bellkat
    bellkat Posts: 328 Forumite
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    Thanks Chorlie, is that £85 a week or a month, my pension is about £24 a week!!
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  • Chorlie
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    bellkat wrote: »
    Thanks Chorlie, is that £85 a week or a month, my pension is about £24 a week!!

    It's a week, but are you on Income Based or Contribution Base ESA?
  • bellkat
    bellkat Posts: 328 Forumite
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    I think it's cont based, I'll need to check my letters I think, thanks for your help.
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  • gocat
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    I see all these answers are based on private pension.
    Does the same ESA rules apply for taking early retirement due to ill health and receiving an occupational pension?

    TIA
  • 50Twuncle
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    .......
    Eg if a pension was £250 per week would there be no ESA or would it be esapayment of approx £16.00..? ...

    This affects me too - I am receiving £145 per week ill health pension and may be offered a part time job - earning £50-60 per week
    I assume that this will simply be added to my pension and the whole lot calculated as "permitted income" - bringing my total income to £200 per week - meaning that my "benefits reduction" would be £50 - leaving £45 per week ESA (C)
    Incidentally - the "disregarded income" has now increased from £85 to £95 on Contribution based benefits.....
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    gocat wrote: »
    I see all these answers are based on private pension.
    Does the same ESA rules apply for taking early retirement due to ill health and receiving an occupational pension?

    TIA

    Yes.......
  • JS477
    JS477 Posts: 1,968 Forumite
    21Twinkle wrote: »
    Incidentally - the "disregarded income" has now increased from £85 to £95 on Contribution based benefits.....

    So the amount of e.g. occupational pension someone can receive before the 50p in the £ deduction is applied to your CB ESA has now been raised to £95 a week?

    Do you have a link?

    Thanks
  • 50Twuncle
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    JS477 wrote: »
    So the amount of e.g. occupational pension someone can receive before the 50p in the £ deduction is applied to your CB ESA has now been raised to £95 a week?

    Do you have a link?

    Thanks

    it is somewhere in here !!
    www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/dmgch44.pdf
    My problem is that half is "pension" and half "permitted work"
  • JS477
    JS477 Posts: 1,968 Forumite
    21Twinkle wrote: »
    it is somewhere in here !!
    www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/dmgch44.pdf
    My problem is that half is "pension" and half "permitted work"

    All I can find in that document is this which keeps the stays quo of £85/week:-

    44652

    Pension payments and PPF periodic payments that are:-

    1. made to a claimant for any week and
    2. more than £85 each week

    are deducted from the claimant’s personal rate, when calculating the amount of ESA(Cont) payable to the claimant for each benefit week or part-week. The amount deducted is half the excess over £85.

    1 WR Act 07, s 2(1)(c) & s 3; ESA Regs, reg 74(1)
  • 50Twuncle
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    JS477 wrote: »
    All I can find in that document is this which keeps the stays quo of £85/week:-

    44652

    Pension payments and PPF periodic payments that are:-

    1. made to a claimant for any week and
    2. more than £85 each week

    are deducted from the claimant’s personal rate, when calculating the amount of ESA(Cont) payable to the claimant for each benefit week or part-week. The amount deducted is half the excess over £85.

    1 WR Act 07, s 2(1)(c) & s 3; ESA Regs, reg 74(1)
    Sorry - wrong link
    try www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/benefitrates2012.pdf
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