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Ilovejackbauer
Ilovejackbauer Posts: 45 Forumite
edited 23 February 2011 at 9:47PM in Employment, jobseeking & training
I currently work part time, during school holidays I work reduced hours and don't work Monday's. However, I am entitled to bank holidays, we have a calculator on our intranet, it calculates the bank holidays into hours, I then put in any hours that I would normally work on the bank holidays and this is taken away from the allowance. Whatever is left is added to my holiday allowance. ie I am entitled to paid bank holiday hours like the full timers.

Is this normal practice in all companies or just large ones.

I am due to start a new position which means I won't be working on a Monday, all the full timers will get extra holiday ie bank holidays. Will the company be obliged to give me extra holiday hours for the bank holidays.

Reading it back trying to explain it a bit better, I don't work Mondays in school holidays but for example May day bank holiday is not part of the school holidays it is just a bank holiday so I would not be entitled to claim those hours. I can only claim hours for the bank holidays that occur in school holidays.
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  • LittleVoice
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    I currently work part time, during school holidays I work reduced hours and don't work Monday's. However, I am entitled to bank holidays, we have a calculator on our intranet, it calculates the bank holidays into hours, I then put in any hours that I would normally work on the bank holidays and this is taken away from the allowance. Whatever is left is added to my holiday allowance. ie I am entitled to paid bank holiday hours like the full timers. This doesn't sound like normal practice in either small or large organisations because it seems to mean you are paid disproportionately more than your full-time colleagues.

    Is this normal practice in all companies or just large ones.

    I am due to start a new position which means I won't be working on a Monday, all the full timers will get extra holiday ie bank holidays. Will the company be obliged to give me extra holiday hours for the bank holidays. You should receive an allowance for bank holidays in proportion to the number of hours you work in comparison with a full-timer. However it may be that the bank holidays are included in the calculation of the full-timers holiday entitlement and you, as a part-timer, will receive the correct proportion of the full-timer's holidays. You really need to know the exact wording of the full-timer's holiday entitlement condition to see how it should be applied to your situation.[/QUOTE]
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  • ~daisy~_2
    ~daisy~_2 Posts: 2,566 Forumite
    im due to start a new part time job in the next 2 weeks - working a weds and a thurs
    i was surprised to be told i would be given bank holidays on a pro rata basis - this year it will be 3.5 days but normally 3

    i am guessing because mondays and fri wont be part of my contract but will be for the other person who shares my week so would be unfair if they got the benefit of them all or something ?? whatever reason i was pleasantly surprised and had never heard of it before
    its a medium sized private manufactoring compnay
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  • ~daisy~ wrote: »
    im due to start a new part time job in the next 2 weeks - working a weds and a thurs
    i was surprised to be told i would be given bank holidays on a pro rata basis - this year it will be 3.5 days but normally 3

    i am guessing because mondays and fri wont be part of my contract but will be for the other person who shares my week so would be unfair if they got the benefit of them all or something ?? whatever reason i was pleasantly surprised and had never heard of it before
    its a medium sized private manufactoring compnay

    If you work 2 days a week and the full-time job would be 5 days, then you are entitled to 2/5 of the entitlement of a full-timer. Full-timers would normally have 8 BHs and 2/5 of 8 is 3.2 days. So normally it should be 3.2 days rather than 3. This year the employer is recognising the 29 April so the entitlement for a full-timer is 9 days. 2/5 of 9 is 3.6 days.

    It's the law - to avoid part-timers suffering a disadvantage compared with full-time staff.
  • ~daisy~_2
    ~daisy~_2 Posts: 2,566 Forumite
    yes but me personally have never encountered it or heard of it before so whether or not its the law it was new to me :)
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  • JodyBPM
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    I work part time (Wednesdays and Thursdays) and my BHs are worked out exactly as described above. I'm entitled to 2/5ths of the Bank holidays which fall within the leave year, which is then converted to a number of hours, and added to my annual leave entitlement.. If a BH falls on one of my working days, I have to take 7 hours from my leave (which is pro-rata a/l plus the pro-rata BHs) for that day. As I work Wed & Thurs, generally the net result is that I end up with a bit more leave to take when I want. It would be unfair to work it any other way, otherwise someone working Mon & Friday rather than Wed & Thurs would would get an extra 8 days holiday in a year, which on a 2 day week is equivalent to an extra 4 weeks leave!
  • LittleVoice
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    JodyBPM wrote: »
    I work part time (Wednesdays and Thursdays) and my BHs are worked out exactly as described above. I'm entitled to 2/5ths of the Bank holidays which fall within the leave year, which is then converted to a number of hours, and added to my annual leave entitlement.. If a BH falls on one of my working days, I have to take 7 hours from my leave (which is pro-rata a/l plus the pro-rata BHs) for that day. As I work Wed & Thurs, generally the net result is that I end up with a bit more leave to take when I want. It would be unfair to work it any other way, otherwise someone working Mon & Friday rather than Wed & Thurs would would get an extra 8 days holiday in a year, which on a 2 day week is equivalent to an extra 4 weeks leave!
    Do you work 7 hours each Wednesday and Thursday?
  • kazd
    kazd Posts: 1,127 Forumite
    I currently work part time, during school holidays I work reduced hours and don't work Monday's. However, I am entitled to bank holidays, we have a calculator on our intranet, it calculates the bank holidays into hours, I then put in any hours that I would normally work on the bank holidays and this is taken away from the allowance. Whatever is left is added to my holiday allowance. ie I am entitled to paid bank holiday hours like the full timers. This doesn't sound like normal practice in either small or large organisations because it seems to mean you are paid disproportionately more than your full-time colleagues.

    Is this normal practice in all companies or just large ones.

    I am due to start a new position which means I won't be working on a Monday, all the full timers will get extra holiday ie bank holidays. Will the company be obliged to give me extra holiday hours for the bank holidays. You should receive an allowance for bank holidays in proportion to the number of hours you work in comparison with a full-timer. However it may be that the bank holidays are included in the calculation of the full-timers holiday entitlement and you, as a part-timer, will receive the correct proportion of the full-timer's holidays. You really need to know the exact wording of the full-timer's holiday entitlement condition to see how it should be applied to your situation.[/QUOTE]
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    Your correct it is proportionate to the hours I work but it is extra hours, we have two calculators one for normal holiday and one for bank holidays. The argument is that full timers get 25 days holiday plus bank holidays. As a part timer mine is calculated in hours, I think I am allowed 40 hours for bank holidays but I have to take away the ones that I am off just because its a bank holiday. ie would I be working that day if it wasn't a bank holiday. May day - yes I would so I have to take off the amount of hours I would have worked for that day. The majority of the rest of the bank holidays appear in school holidays and I would not normally work those days ie they are not paid days but I am entitled to them as a paid bank holiday.
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  • mkbswimstar
    mkbswimstar Posts: 236 Forumite
    edited 1 June 2011 at 2:26PM
    I'm after advice please.
    I started a new job 5 days a week, 3 hours a day.
    What should it be based on the basic allowance?

    Can anyone help please?
  • You need to find out what a full-time person receives as their holiday entitlement. It seems to me that they have taken a full-time allowance of 28 days, divided by 7 (hours in a full-time day) and multiplied by 3 (your number of hours). That does get you to 12 days but that would be 12 days of 7 hours. You are entitled to 28 days of your hours. And they can say that your holidays include bank holidays - but they have to pay you for them if that is the case.
  • Mrs_Arcanum
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    I'm after advice please.
    I started a new job 5 days a week, 3 hours a day. My new employer says my hol entitlement is 12 days a year! and as the office is shut on bank hols I won't get paid them.
    What should it be based on the basic allowance?
    I think they have pro ratad my hols based on hours, not days, so I think I should get 20 something days and then I'm clueless re the bank hols.
    Can anyone help please?
    It can only legally be 12 days if they are the equivalent of 5.6 weeks a year in your hours. If your office is shut on a BH you should be able to take this as annual leave & be paid accordingly.

    I do 14 hours a week & get 96 hours holiday (very generous company for holiday entitlement).
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