What is the New World Order?

Gigervamp

mostlycheerful wrote: »

Human burgers are in demand again at the moment, apparently, they're quite fashionable during the mating season on various planets, so they tell me.

followed by breastmilk ice cream no doubt!

mostlycheerful

Gigervamp wrote: »

followed by breastmilk ice cream no doubt!

Yes, that's the one. My favourite, how did you guess? And human milk cheese and butter and chocolate. Oh, and don't forget the dog milk, milk from dogs. And dog cheese, of course. Lovely. Oh, and a rare very expensive delicacy, mouse milk. Delightful.

Procrastinator333

mostlycheerful wrote: »

Oh, ok, I thought he/she was for real quoting some of that spotty teenager level guff about loony power mad people always wanting more power and such like. Ok, sure. Yeah, I'm not really up on all this silly crap. I'm not really with it about conspiracy bollox. I read one of David Icky Licky's books and the historical stuff was all quite interesting but the loony stuff wasn't particularly witty it was just daft and idiotic. 4th dimensional reptiles, indeed matey, shades of L Ron Hubbard and co with all their loony Thetan nonsense and planet Zarg or whatever it's called and all the rest of it, yeah good acid does that for you, good and proper, but that doesn't actually mean it's real.

I'm not quite sure how I could have made my post any more sarcastic, but anyway. And that sarcasm was not aimed at you, but Quack a Jack. By the way, Quack a Jack has announced on another thread (where he is training everyone to be day traders and make millions) that he is out. Won't be posting any more apparently, needs to go and make more money.

My wager is that a new poster turns up in the not too distant future. Kudos to the first person who picks him out.

P.s. I'm not finished with that video yet, but needed a day off. It is actually quite funny and sad at the same time.

mostlycheerful

Procrastinator333 wrote: »

I'm not quite sure how I could have made my post any more sarcastic, but anyway. And that sarcasm was not aimed at you, but Quack a Jack. By the way, Quack a Jack has announced on another thread (where he is training everyone to be day traders and make millions) that he is out. Won't be posting any more apparently, needs to go and make more money.

My wager is that a new poster turns up in the not too distant future. Kudos to the first person who picks him out.

P.s. I'm not finished with that video yet, but needed a day off. It is actually quite funny and sad at the same time.

Oh, ok, sorry if I missed the point and misunderstood the sarcasm. Yes, as I've already said, I'm afraid I couldn't follow all the thread and all that stuff so sorry if I only managed to get hold of one little bit out of context and completely miss the point.

In a way that sort of correlates with where I'm at about this stuff, it's marginally interesting, a little bit, but essentially a lot of it appears to be rather daft. And so much so that it doesn't really engage my critical faculties. A lot of it seems on the face of it to be such a nonsense that I just can't comprehend it.

I can manage a bit of joking about it and one or two of the concepts hold my attention a bit - but I can't really get a grip on it and rummage around debunking it. Maybe I should try harder.

In view of this maybe I'll give it another go at reading it tomorrow and see if I can make some sense of it. Yes, it's a shame to miss out on what is evidently a goodly bit of lively debating you've all been doing.

Yes, sorry again if I've just clumsily got the wrong end of the stick. Ok.

Procrastinator333

mostlycheerful wrote: »

Oh, ok, sorry if I missed the point and misunderstood the sarcasm. Yes, as I've already said, I'm afraid I couldn't follow all the thread and all that stuff so sorry if I only managed to get hold of one little bit out of context and completely miss the point.

In a way that sort of correlates with where I'm at about this stuff, it's marginally interesting, a little bit, but essentially a lot of it appears to be rather daft. And so much so that it doesn't really engage my critical faculties. A lot of it seems on the face of it to be such a nonsense that I just can't comprehend it.

I can manage a bit of joking about it and one or two of the concepts hold my attention a bit - but I can't really get a grip on it and rummage around debunking it. Maybe I should try harder.

In view of this maybe I'll give it another go at reading it tomorrow and see if I can make some sense of it. Yes, it's a shame to miss out on what is evidently a goodly bit of lively debating you've all been doing.

Yes, sorry again if I've just clumsily got the wrong end of the stick. Ok.

There isn't really any debate. QuackaJack put up this thread and told the world he was going to educate us. He has now hung up his posting hat without more than about 2 poists on the subject. I'm still posting and watching that video because in a strange way I am finding it a little interesting - it is actually quite appaling how manipulative that video is (sad) and at the same time I find myself laughing at how any one can believe it.

Procrastinator333

Ok, next section of the vide, here we go.

This starts by showing a poll from American TV. Question of the day from "Showbiz tonight". "Do you agree with Charlie Sheen there is a government cover up of 9/11?" Yes:83%. First off, I question the quality of an audience who are watching showbiz tonight and feeling the need to comment on what Charlie Sheen said. Second, there is no context. How many people voted, 15? 1.5m, no idea.The quote could also be taken in many ways. Perhaps they were addressing if the government covered up some errors on their part in the immediate response. It is not telling you that 83% of Americans believe WTC was a controlled explosion.

Apparently, since 1913 (and the formation of the federal reserve) there have been several major international conflicts. World War 1, World War 2 and Vietnam. Well yes, can't really dispute that fact. However the implication is that this level of conflict is uncommon and as a result of the formation of the federal reserve.

Try the following link. Click on any 25 year period. There are countless wars and conflicts throughout history. Sadly, 3 international conflicts in a century is not uncommon.

http://www.warscholar.com/Timeline.html#Modern

Now I have only got from 1:16 to 1:18, but this next bit is so full holes I just have to type it. World War 1. There is apparently a documented conversation between 2 officials, 1 from UK and 1 from USA that if a passenger liner were sunk, it would likely bring the USA in to the war. Not sure where it is documented, but that is beside the point, and not an unreasonable conversation to have anyway.

The video then points out that the boat was sent deliverately in to German waters and got itself torpedoed. The ammunition on board exploded sinking the ship and bringing the USA in to the war shortly after.

Or here is the facts around the event. The US had declared neutrality, however it was sympathetic to the UK and so still looked to help via equipment and ammunition. But they couldn't send this over in merchant ships, so they hid it on passenger liners. Germany were aware of this and in the end decided they would try and put a stop to it by sinking one of these ships. The video even tells you that ammunition exploded on the vessel - yes, because it was smuggling that cargo you muppet.

The other ridiculous point is that the video claims the boat was sunk in "German waters". No, it was sunk off the Irish coast - it even says that in the headline of the newspaper article the video shows.

We are on to world war 2 now. This is going to be good. Oh, Roosevelts family is all bankers, he was obviously in cahoots then.

So the theory goes that Roosevelt deliberately provoked Japan in to aggresion for the purpose of making money for the banks. He did this by ceasing to trade with Japan, and supplying money and arms to the UK and China. Apparently this is against international law and shouldn't have been done. Therefore all deliberate to make money. Or here is my suggestion. Roosevelt had a tough time becasue the US population was in another isolationist phase. He can see Germany, controls Europe apart from 1 tiny island. In the pacific, Jpan is flexing it's muscles and expaning militarily. Perhaps it occured to Roosevelt that to do nothign would have simply kicked the probelm down the road as one day those military dictatorships would have come knocking. Not to mention the moral aspect of supporting the right cause. So he helped as best he could through trade sanctions, armas and money. Japan seeing the cards playing out decided war was inevitable and so attacked first. To think this is all part of a plot to be able to make some more loans is just downright stupid. So stupid stupid stupid.

I'm only up to 1:22 and need another break.

Procrastinator333

Asheron wrote: »

But with respect Smeagold. I was just like you 5 years ago and gave up. I just give out a DVD to everyone I know now...

'Wake Up Call'

or watch it online

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvd_8Z68Z_k

I have been watching this video and commenting as I go through. Bit surprised you ahven't replied to any of my comments. Question - Having given out that DVD to everyone you know, is anyone still talking to you, or do they slowly back away when they see yo coming?

purch

The other ridiculous point is that the video claims the boat was sunk in "German waters". No, it was sunk off the Irish coast - it even says that in the headline of the newspaper article the video shows

A video such as this with clear factual errors can never be taken seriously.

Of course the easily influenced will believe everything in the video, but anyone with a slight amount of intelligence should at least question the contents, before believing it.

Germany has never had a big coastline, and certainly it's territorial waters are only a small area.

The fact that this video feels the need to lie and misrepresent facts in this way say's all you need to know about it's credibility.

I think those who advocate rubbish such as this should hide their heads in embarrassment ( as they appear to be doing right now :eek:)

bendix

Indeed. The curious thing is he has taken his toys home suggesting we are close minded, and doesnt want to post anymore. How ironic.

bendix

Procrastinator333 wrote: »

I'm not quite sure how I could have made my post any more sarcastic, but anyway. And that sarcasm was not aimed at you, but Quack a Jack. By the way, Quack a Jack has announced on another thread (where he is training everyone to be day traders and make millions) that he is out. Won't be posting any more apparently, needs to go and make more money.

My wager is that a new poster turns up in the not too distant future. Kudos to the first person who picks him out.

P.s. I'm not finished with that video yet, but needed a day off. It is actually quite funny and sad at the same time.

Yes, I agree. Of course he will be back. He can't resist the temptation to instruct and educate people. Of course he will have a new identity but anyone with similar obsessions as him will be easy to identify immediately.

I'm disappointed to be honest. I thought he had substance. It seems he's more of a lightweight that Ash - at least the latter sticks around.