Private Sector Cant Mop Up Public Sector Job Cuts

blueboy43

Generali wrote: »

The trouble is the private sector can't afford to pay for public sector employees to continue in the same numbers as before in the public sector. Whether there are jobs for them in the private sector is neither here nor there really.



The number is 18 in the past 40 years:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/07/how_should_incompetent_teacher.html

That is not the number sacked.

It is supposedly (but almost certainly a made up figure) for those struck off the teaching register.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11098421

There has been more than 70 struck off in the last 6 years in Scotland alone - mostly for criminal convictions.
There was no split for the reasons that teachers were struck off prior to 2004.

You won't find the numbers that different for other professions (who are loath in general to strike people off permanently unless it is clear criminal wrong doing)

StevieJ

ILW wrote: »

How many public sectors employees would you say have been dismissed for themselves or their team failing to to hit target?

The figure for incompetant teachers being fired is around 7 in the last 10 years.

I know someone who was sacked from a public industry a couple of years ago. BTW why do many in private industry consider redundancy programmes as getting rid of dead weight?

blueboy43

StevieJ wrote: »

Some good points there, many bad teachers are given the ultimatum of be sacked or leave of your own volition, most sensibly do the latter.

Exactly - add to those made redundant as schools re-organize or those 'encouraged' to leave by giving them the most difficult classes and the methods for getting rid of teachers are not that much different from the private sector.

StevieJ

blueboy43 wrote: »

Exactly - add to those made redundant as schools re-organize or those 'encouraged' to leave by giving them the most difficult classes and the methods for getting rid of teachers are not that much different from the private sector.

Especially large private sector companies.

Hereward

ILW wrote: »

In that case you must know a very benign part of the private sector.

My experience is mainly SMEs who literally cannot afford to carry dead weight.

The sector I know sacks people every week for what others would deem minor infractions. To help put that into context they deal with people's lives on a daily basis and any mistake could lead to death.

What makes you think that larger organisations can afford to carry dead weight either? It's just easier to hide in a big organisation.

As an aside not all SMEs are in the private sector...