Quotes for new boiler... fair?

jcwn03

Hi,

I have been getting quotes to swap my old heating system for a new condensing combui boiler and I have had 3 back so far, all 3 are around the same price but I was just wanting someone who may have more knowledge to look over them to see if they are fair...

Quote A
Worcester Bosh accredited installer

• Replace existing boiler & vertical flue with new A rated Worcester Bosch 30si or Valliant 28 Ecotec with a vertical flue, flue & boiler to be installed in existing location. Condensate pipe to run into bath waste (next door to boiler) We will reconnect to the existing pipework alertering & removing as necessary to accomodate new boiler position.
• Supply & fit a replacement radiator to the bathroom free of charge (700x700 single)with a new TRV and LSV
• Supply and fit new integral DT20/Vaillant digital clock to the front of boiler free of charge, also supply and fit DT92E roomstat in hall free of charge.
• Install a new gas supply from mtr to boiler location in 22m copper pipe (approx 18m up wall and under 2 bedroom floors, single story kitchen roof space and down to boiler, all joists in both bedrooms run against the installer so all will need to be drilled/notched)
• Commision boiler to manufacturer and industry standard including chemical flush of new installation.
• All redundant materials to be removed from site
• magna clean supplied and fitted
• electrical work carried out by n.i.c.e.i.c approved installer
• Additional radiator to be installed in kitchen 600x400 double convector
• 5 year manufacturers warranty on WB or 2 years on Vaillant
• Price - £2850 inc VAT

Quote B

Worcester Bosch accredited installer

• Supply & fit Worcester Bosch 30Si, complete with vertical flue with 5 year parts and labour warranty
• supply & fit DT20 built in programmer, Salus RT300 room thermostat
• Supply & fit scalemaster limescale filter
• Install 28mm gas supply upgrade (same again approx 18mtrs)
• Heating system to be chemically flushed and an inhibitor added to protect system.
• All old materials will be removed from site (with exception of asbestos flue) and make good internal/external walls where neccessary.
• Includes all labour, copper, fittings & materials necessary to carry out the work

Total Price is £2450 inc VAT

Extras to be done at same time:
Provide and fit Magna clean £150 inc VAT
Provide and fit 700x700 single radiator £50 inc VAT
Provide and fit 600 x 400 double radiator inc all copper, fittings, valves and labour (added to system) £150 inc VAT

Total price with all extras £2800

Quote C

Removal and disposal of existing boiler and cylinder, install new 22mm gas main from front to rear of house, install new Atmos HE 32 boiler with vertical flue, make good any holes, add inhibitor and commison system

• Atmos HE 32 combi boiler £989
• 2.5m vertical flue kit £155
• R.F Programmable room stat £85
• New gas main £145
• 2 new radiators (as above quotes) £110
• Design cost (surveys, admin, travel etc) £25
• Installation and material costs (copper pipe, pipe fittings, wiring etc) £175
• Installation labour costs £800
• Other (access, delivery, travel, accommodation, vehicle etc) £95

Total price £2707.95 inc VAT

Apolgies for the length of this post! I'm hoping someone with some knowledge can take a look at the 3 quotes and tell me if there is anything out of the ordinary as this is the first boiler I've ever had installed so I'm a bit clueless.

Thanks in advance and look forward to your replies

Canucklehead

jcwn03 wrote: »

Hi,

I have been getting quotes to swap my old heating system for a new condensing combui boiler and I have had 3 back so far, all 3 are around the same price but I was just wanting someone who may have more knowledge to look over them to see if they are fair...

Quote A
Worcester Bosh accredited installer

• Replace existing boiler & vertical flue with new A rated Worcester Bosch 30si or Valliant 28 Ecotec with a vertical flue, flue & boiler to be installed in existing location. Condensate pipe to run into bath waste (next door to boiler) We will reconnect to the existing pipework alertering & removing as necessary to accomodate new boiler position.
• Supply & fit a replacement radiator to the bathroom free of charge (700x700 single)with a new TRV and LSV
• Supply and fit new integral DT20/Vaillant digital clock to the front of boiler free of charge, also supply and fit DT92E roomstat in hall free of charge.
• Install a new gas supply from mtr to boiler location in 22m copper pipe (approx 18m up wall and under 2 bedroom floors, single story kitchen roof space and down to boiler, all joists in both bedrooms run against the installer so all will need to be drilled/notched)
• Commision boiler to manufacturer and industry standard including chemical flush of new installation.
• All redundant materials to be removed from site
• magna clean supplied and fitted
• electrical work carried out by n.i.c.e.i.c approved installer
• Additional radiator to be installed in kitchen 600x400 double convector
• 5 year manufacturers warranty on WB or 2 years on Vaillant
• Price - £2850 inc VAT

Quote B

Worcester Bosch accredited installer

• Supply & fit Worcester Bosch 30Si, complete with vertical flue with 5 year parts and labour warranty
• supply & fit DT20 built in programmer, Salus RT300 room thermostat
• Supply & fit scalemaster limescale filter
• Install 28mm gas supply upgrade (same again approx 18mtrs)
• Heating system to be chemically flushed and an inhibitor added to protect system.
• All old materials will be removed from site (with exception of asbestos flue) and make good internal/external walls where neccessary.
• Includes all labour, copper, fittings & materials necessary to carry out the work

Total Price is £2450 inc VAT

Extras to be done at same time:
Provide and fit Magna clean £150 inc VAT
Provide and fit 700x700 single radiator £50 inc VAT
Provide and fit 600 x 400 double radiator inc all copper, fittings, valves and labour (added to system) £150 inc VAT

Total price with all extras £2800

Quote C

Removal and disposal of existing boiler and cylinder, install new 22mm gas main from front to rear of house, install new Atmos HE 32 boiler with vertical flue, make good any holes, add inhibitor and commison system

• Atmos HE 32 combi boiler £989
• 2.5m vertical flue kit £155
• R.F Programmable room stat £85
• New gas main £145
• 2 new radiators (as above quotes) £110
• Design cost (surveys, admin, travel etc) £25
• Installation and material costs (copper pipe, pipe fittings, wiring etc) £175
• Installation labour costs £800
• Other (access, delivery, travel, accommodation, vehicle etc) £95

Total price £2707.95 inc VAT

Apolgies for the length of this post! I'm hoping someone with some knowledge can take a look at the 3 quotes and tell me if there is anything out of the ordinary as this is the first boiler I've ever had installed so I'm a bit clueless.

Thanks in advance and look forward to your replies

Good evening: at first glance, gas supply in Quote 1 would be undersized. Would recommend Honeywell CMT 927 wireless programmer and a Magnabooster 2 filter. Can't comment on the price.
My OH fits Viessmann as his first choice and Remeha as a buget option (Vaillant if requested by customer). Make sure the installation is Benchmarked and notified to Building Control. More advice available here.

As always...a boiler is only as good as it's installation and annual servicing.

HTH

Canucklehead

pompeyfaith

All old materials will be removed from site (with exception of asbestos flue) and make good internal/external walls where neccessary.

As they are not taking this you will need to decide beforehand what to do with it so I would check with your local council what provisions they have in place.

Also if you choose this quote when they remove it make sure it is correctly bagged etc and not just dumped to spread the dust.

jcwn03

Canucklehead wrote: »

Good evening: at first glance, gas supply in Quote 1 would be undersized. Would recommend Honeywell CMT 927 wireless programmer and a Magnabooster 2 filter. Can't comment on the price.
My OH fits Veissmann as his first choice and Remeha as a buget option (Vaillant if requested by customer). Make sure the installation is Benchmarked and notified to Building Control. More advice available here.

As always...a boiler is only as good as it's installation and annual servicing.

HTH

Canucklehead

Hi Canucklehead,

Thanks for the reply. Are you thinking the same as in quote B that the supply should be in 28mm?

Thanks for the info on the regulations regarding building control, i'll have a look at those now as only one of the quotes actually mentions this which is slightly worrying!

Currently I'm sat in waiting for the guy who was meant to be here at 12pm to do a quote :mad:

jcwn03

Well the guy eventually turned up and has given me the quote straight away, his quote was...

• To remove old boiler & tanks and install new worcester bosh 24i juniour combi with 5 year warranty £1540
• New rad & pipework in kitchen 600x400 d/c £120
• New rad to existing pipewirk in bathroom 00x700 d/c £80
• 5 TRVs + 7 lockshields (for existing radiators) £120
• Supply & fit vertical flue £300
• Power flush £100
• Gas pipe upgrade to 22mm £130
• Programmable room stat £f.o.c

Total £2390 - discount (£115) = £2275

Optional extra of magna clean filter £100 making £2375 in total

Or same as about but with Viessmann Vitodens 100w 30kw boiler for £2350 with 5 year warranty

I'm tempted to go with this quote and take the viessmann option but i'm a bit wary as its £500 cheaper than the others...

gas4you

From your choices the Atmos would be the one to go for.

mattmk6

quote 1 sounds like the gas supply is undersize and mentions a chemical flush as opposed to a POWERFLUSH. Worcesters 5 year warranty is worthless if it is not powerflushed. you must also have the boiler serviced every year to keep the warranty running.

My advice is the Vaillant - you wont even need the 2 year warranty with this one! In the last 3 years i have been to 2 that have broken down and both of these were because the system wasnt cleaned out so the muck blocked up the heat exchanger

thestyler123

sounds expensive to me for a boiler swap, apreciate there is a vertical flue, the gas pipe should be upgraded to 28mm then reduce too 22mm within 5/6 meters of boiler, salus control are rubbish, stick to honeywell, I think worcester are over rated but thats my opion they just dont float my boat, there are better value for money boilers out there like baxi/potterton, yes worcester offer 5 yr warranty, If the boiler has been installed correctly and flushed properly and an inline scalemaster installed then the boiler should go 5 yrs with no problems, as I have installed loads of baxi/potterton boilers over the years and 95% have gone 5yrs without a problem the other 5% where minor things. And thats all I have to say about that.