Speed Cameras ... ::sigh::

Lum

The guideline still exists, it's set by ACPO and recommends that prosecutions start at 10%+2, namely 35 in a 30, 46 in a 40 etc.

However it's just a guideline, and not even a government guideline, so the camera partnerships can enforce at any speed they want, even 31 in a 30.

stubbyd

Wow - thanks for all the responses folks.

I've never heard of pepipoo before so will wander along shortly and see what's what. And everyone is likely right about the course - presuming she gets offered it that is.

murdomaguire

Speeding is an absolute offence and so you can be prosecuted for any speed in excess of the limit. But under ACPO guidelines prosecution is normally restricted to speeds in excess of limit plus 10% plus two mph so prosecution can take place at 36mph but will normally not do so at 35mph. 36mph to 39 mph is normally dealt with by a speed awareness course if one is offered for the location where the offence was committed. A speed awareness course means you don't have to declare points and will usually mean a considerable saving on insurance, particularly as motoring offence penalty points are counted for a period of five years as a "risk" for insurance purposes.

Gandalfthesecond

murdomaguire wrote: »

Speeding is an absolute offence and so you can be prosecuted for any speed in excess of the limit. But under ACPO guidelines prosecution is normally restricted to speeds in excess of limit plus 10% plus two mph so prosecution can take place at 36mph but will normally not do so at 35mph. 36mph to 39 mph is normally dealt with by a speed awareness course if one is offered for the location where the offence was committed. A speed awareness course means you don't have to declare points and will usually mean a considerable saving on insurance, particularly as motoring offence penalty points are counted for a period of five years as a "risk" for insurance purposes.

30+10%+2=35 does it not?

pmm1981

stubbyd wrote: »

Just need to vent a little ...

Finances, as they likely are for most, tough at the moment and the wife has just been served with an "intent to prosecute" notice for doing 35mph in a 30mph zone. I recall I was done for 38mph a couple of decades back but 35mph seems very harsh - and yes I know >30 is breaking the law but when I see boy & girl $*%$'s fly past my house every day and not get done then ...

Anyway, likely fine will not help the finances one bit.

In terms of points & fine v possible speed awareness course I'm tempted to tell her to suck up the points ... so I guess the real reason for being here is to ask ... if she does get the option then what's the likelihood of points affecting her insurance?

She's been driving now for 32 or 33yrs without any priors.

I declared my points after 2 years as i forgot all about the insurance company not knowing.
I had to pay the extra that i would have paid if i had originally declared them.
Year 1 extra £40
Year 2 extra £120
Year 3 extra £don't know as they knew by then.

This was for a 2.5 focus ST3 with 6 years no claims.

So this proves that 3 points for speeding DOES affect your premiums.

If given the choice take the course, it may cost £20 or so extra initially but it will be cheaper in the long run.

Strider590

murdomaguire wrote: »

Speeding is an absolute offence and so you can be prosecuted for any speed in excess of the limit.

What's more dangerous?

Me overtaking 3 cars at 70mph in a 60mph zone at 2am....... or the car coming the other way with no (or just parking lights) lights on?

Which would the Police prosecute?

LandyAndy

murdomaguire wrote: »

Speeding is an absolute offence and so you can be prosecuted for any speed in excess of the limit. But under ACPO guidelines prosecution is normally restricted to speeds in excess of limit plus 10% plus two mph so prosecution can take place at 36mph but will normally not do so at 35mph. 36mph to 39 mph is normally dealt with by a speed awareness course if one is offered for the location where the offence was committed. A speed awareness course means you don't have to declare points and will usually mean a considerable saving on insurance, particularly as motoring offence penalty points are counted for a period of five years as a "risk" for insurance purposes.

There won't be any points to declare;). Also you do not have to report attendance at the course to your insurers.

LandyAndy

Strider590 wrote: »

What's more dangerous?

Me overtaking 3 cars at 70mph in a 60mph zone at 2am....... or the car coming the other way with no (or just parking lights) lights on?

Which would the Police prosecute?

Both of you I expect.:)

WelshPaul

My ex brother in law got done for doing 33 in a 30 zone, points and fine were given. This was around 14 years ago mind!

Gandalfthesecond

Strider590 wrote: »

What's more dangerous?

Me overtaking 3 cars at 70mph in a 60mph zone at 2am....... or the car coming the other way with no (or just parking lights) lights on?

Which would the Police prosecute?

LandyAndy wrote: »

Both of you I expect.:)

Depends on the road in question.
If street lights in a built-up area are 185ft or less apart, then driving on sidelights is quite legal.