Just Peugeot Citroen Ltd

Flyboy152

Strider590 wrote: »

Contact Peugeot/Citroen/Talbot (the car manufacturer) and tell them all about this company....... They'll sue them for every penny they've got.

I will assume this is a joke.

ManicMum

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Have you asked them for a refund?

yes, several times

TUS

http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews237985.html

ManicMum

yes, I've seen the reviews. Trading standards said they need people to make their individual complaints as website reviews don't count. So if you have had bad experience, report to trading standards. The more they get, the more action they can take.

pendulum

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I will assume this is a joke.

They are on dodgy ground trading as "Just Peugeot Citroen Ltd" as the name infringes trademark and could confuse people into thinking the company is partnered with Peugeot or Citroen. I can see them sending legal letters to force them to name change and maybe going to court if they refuse.

marmitedog

If you've voluntarily bought a Peugeot or a Citroen, then I imagine dodgy parts suppliers are the least of your problems.

Flyboy152

pendulum wrote: »

They are on dodgy ground trading as "Just Peugeot Citroen Ltd" as the name infringes trademark and could confuse people into thinking the company is partnered with Peugeot or Citroen. I can see them sending legal letters to force them to name change and maybe going to court if they refuse.

But, seeing as they are no longer called Peugeot, Citroen and Talbot (as originally implied by Strider) and this is a service issue, I doubt very much PSA would sue on the basis of the parts supplier's poor service, or that they would have a viable case at all.

That said the full trading name of the company is "Just Peugeot Citroen Parts Ltd," quite unambiguous and pretty clear by the name, that they sell just Citroen and Peugeot parts. It could be argued that the "only" also refers to parts. Thus, it sells parts only and cars. The company have been incorporated since two thousand and nine, plenty of time for PPSA to have objected. Companies House would also have advised them to think again, if they thought the name infringed on that of another company.

pendulum

I don't think Strider was suggesting Peugeot/Citroen would sue the company for offering bad service. I think he was suggesting the OP contacts Peugeot/Citroen to inform them of the presumably unauthorised use of their trademark in the company name so that the company could take legal action. A lot of companies take trademark protection very seriously and this a straightforward case - most likely Peugeot/Citroen don't know this relatively new and small company exists yet.

You say Companies House would have advised them to think again but I don't think that's their responsibility - its down to the person forming a new company to check he doesn't infringe himself.

"Just Peugeot Citroen Parts Ltd" could easily lead to someone thinking it was officially linked to Peugeot or Citroen's operations - maybe an official division or authorised supplier supplying parts etc. There's no way you can get away with that kind of name without permission. Companies have been forced to change names over a heck of a lot less.

Flyboy152

pendulum wrote: »

I don't think Strider was suggesting Peugeot/Citroen would sue the company for offering bad service. I think he was suggesting the OP contacts Peugeot/Citroen to inform them of the presumably unauthorised use of their trademark in the company name so that the company could take legal action. A lot of companies take trademark protection very seriously and this a straightforward case - most likely Peugeot/Citroen don't know this relatively new and small company exists yet.

But there is nothing to sue over. The name of the company explains exactly what it does (trying to resist references to the outside of "tins" ). They sell just Peugeot and Citroen parts and I presume little else. I am sure they sell Toyota and Fiat parts as well, but there is little point in putting that down on the companies house form. There are loads of companies out there taht have names of motor manufacturers in theor names, I can't see them suing all of those, can you. Near to us we have a law firm called Ford and Brothers, I don't see Ford Motor Company bothering with that.

You say Companies House would have advised them to think again but I don't think that's their responsibility - its down to the person forming a new company to check he doesn't infringe himself.

That is exactly Companies House's job

pendulum

Flyboy152 wrote: »

But there is nothing to sue over. The name of the company explains exactly what it does

Companies sue others if there's even a hint of trademark violation, have a look at the McDonalds trademark cases! McCoffee and McMunchies both stopped from using the name just because of the "Mc" in front!

By your logic I can register "Not McDonalds But A Better Burger Bar" and be okay... I wouldn't last 2 minutes

The whole point of registering trademarks and protecting business names etc is to stop other people in a similar field from using them! Peugeot / Citroen are in the motor business so they're absolutely entitled to stop someone else using the "Citroen" or "Peugeot" name from selling car parts - they would be successful 100%!

Flyboy152 wrote: »

That is exactly Companies House's job

Well, I've just been to their website, and it says in the FAQ that its your responsibility to search the IPO website yourself and you must ensure your name doesn't interfere with anothers trademark.

I can see nothing about them doing a search to make sure for you.

When I registered as self employed, they didn't check if my trading name was going to infringe any trademarks.

It's not even possible to know for sure before you register a company whether your going to be infringing a trademark or not, so responsibility must be on the one who is registering the company name.

Where's your evidence that Companies House are responsible for advising you if your name will infringe copyright/trademark? How do you know they did not do this but the owner decided to register "Just Peugeot / Citroen Car Parts" anyway.