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MSE News: Treasury sets out new financial watchdog powers

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"Plans to overhaul the regulation structure were revealed today, in a bid to prevent another crisis ..."
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  • VT82
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    edited 17 February 2011 at 7:51PM
    MSE_Dan wrote: »
    "We now must all hope that by shortening the name, consumer protection doesn't end up in the gutter."


    How to ruin an otherwise sound and newsworthy article with a petulant remark. Inflammatory, pessimistic, and most of all, bizarrely illogical.
  • SnowMan
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    All good stuff for those who are acronymically minded.

    The article didn't mention that FCA were also a Danish football club (FC Amager) which declared themselves bankrupt in 2009.

    On the subject of failure let's hope that FCA doesn't end up standing for Failing Consumers Again.
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  • jambosans
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    This was highlighted during the depths of the financial crisis in 2007 and 2008, which resulted in the part-nationalisation of two of the largest banks in the world, RBS and HBOS, and the complete nationalisation of Northern Rock.

    RBS yes, HBOS not really. According to the below article, HBOS was 18th by assets and market value:-
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/mar/25/banking-g20#

    I'm being pedantic, I know, but it's a news article, so I expect MSE to get the fundamentals right.
    Anything I post is my opinion, so from time to time I may be wrong. I try to provide answers based in fact, however I don't know everything, so (like all posters on MSE), take what I say with a pinch of salt.
  • Joe_Bloggs
    Joe_Bloggs Posts: 4,535 Forumite
    FPC PRA FCA
    under which cup is the pea ?
    Perhaps you guessed right but now!
    FCA FCP PRA
    under which cup is the pea ?
    Ans: It is an ancient scam.
    The pea will be elsewhere.

    What does the pea represent ?
    Why do we chase it when we know it is a con?

    J_B.
  • VT82 wrote: »
    How to ruin an otherwise sound and newsworthy article with a petulant remark. Inflammatory, pessimistic, and most of all, bizarrely illogical.

    Hi VT82,

    I'm not sure how the remark is any of those things - a body to help consumers, called "Consumer Protection....." stands a much greater chance of doing its job, in my opinion.

    FCA gives no indication to the man on the street that it is on his side, and may not focus the minds of those who work there on 'consumer protection' (which, for me, should also be their primary objective)

    Thanks for comments though

    Dan
    Former MSE team member
  • jambosans
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    MSE_Dan wrote: »
    I'm not sure how the remark is any of those things - a body to help consumers, called "Consumer Protection....." stands a much greater chance of doing its job, in my opinion.

    FCA gives no indication to the man on the street that it is on his side, and may not focus the minds of those who work there on 'consumer protection' (which, for me, should also be their primary objective)

    What an odd thing to say. I would give a little more credit to those who work for the Bank of England that they understand their job role beyond the organisations title.

    Perhaps we should rename First ScotRail, Trains That Run With A Wee Bit Of Snow On The Tracks, in the hope it will focus the minds of those who work there.

    Or, perhaps, we should not get caught up in the superficial irrelevancies of an organisation, and judge them by what they do, not what they are called.
    Anything I post is my opinion, so from time to time I may be wrong. I try to provide answers based in fact, however I don't know everything, so (like all posters on MSE), take what I say with a pinch of salt.
  • jambosans wrote: »
    Or, perhaps, we should not get caught up in the superficial irrelevancies of an organisation, and judge them by what they do, not what they are called.

    Yep I totally agree with that, and really hope they do a grand job.

    However, I see no logic in, having already chosen a working title that did include Consumer Protection, then getting rid of it at this stage - would actually love to hear the reasoning

    Dan
    Former MSE team member
  • Alpine_Star
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    MSE_Dan wrote: »
    Yep I totally agree with that, and really hope they do a grand job.

    However, I see no logic in, having already chosen a working title that did include Consumer Protection, then getting rid of it at this stage - would actually love to hear the reasoning

    Dan


    ''The government decided to rename the Consumer Protection and Markets Authority the Financial Conduct Authority to emphasise the new focus on the way banks, brokers and individuals behave.
    “This is a conduct body. Whether you are buying an insurance policy from a high street broker or you are trading high finance, the FCA is your conduct regulator,” Mr Hoban said. “It does what it says on the tin.”



    FT.com / Markets - Sharper teeth for financial watchdogs

    In my view the decision to drop 'consumer' from the title makes it less likely that consumers will actually know that the organisation is a body set up in their interest.

    I can only hope that the inclusion of the word 'conduct' will reflect the growing calls for a regulator with a more interventionist and pro-active approach.
  • SnowMan
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    edited 20 February 2011 at 12:00AM
    MSE_Dan wrote: »
    ...However, I see no logic in, having already chosen a working title that did include Consumer Protection, then getting rid of it at this stage...

    Just received the weekly newsletter from Paul Lewis (the Radio 4 Moneybox presenter). He makes a similar point about the name change which I quote below
    I am slightly less pleased that the word ‘consumer’ is no longer in the FCA’s title and that consumers are kept as the third out of four tasks of the FCA (the same place consumers now occupy in the list of the FSA’s objectives). Ahead of consumers are enhancing confidence in the UK financial system and facilitating efficiency and choice in services............

    For those interested the full proposal document can be accessed via the HM Treasury website at

    http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/d/consult_newfinancial_regulation170211.pdf
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  • Joe_Bloggs
    Joe_Bloggs Posts: 4,535 Forumite
    @Snowman
    Why did the document have £20.75 printed on the first page ?
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