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  • gonzo127
    gonzo127 Posts: 4,482
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    edited 16 February 2011 at 2:53PM
    Why would people go mad for you suggesting Linux? Is it not rated on here?

    To remove windows and install Linux is it just a case of downloading and installing Linux or do I need to do something to remove windows?

    Would Linux work on and speed up a notebook? As I may just get a cheap one of these for £200 if it does

    Sorry for the questions and thanks for your help so far.

    some people are anti linux, just the same as you have some people anti apple and other anti windows, you also get people who believe that people should just stick with what they know (ie windows) because it is easier and that we should not encourage people to move out of their comfort zone but hey ho

    as to installing it, you just have to download the ISO file burn the image to disk and then set your system to boot from your disk drive - most versions of Linux give you the ability to 'try' the operating system, i would always recommend this, basically what it does is run the entire OS from the disk drive and your systems RAM without making any changes to your hard drive, this allows you to check for any potential hardware incompatabilities before you do anything.
    once you have tried this however and are happy that everything works then all you do is reboot and next time it gets to the option screen choose install and then it will walk you thorugh the process such as install alongside windows or totally format the drive and just install Linux - normally installaiton takes 20-30 mins (for either Ubuntu or Linux Mint - or the other versions of these)

    as to speeding up a laptop - yes it can if you pick the right version of Linux, i personally use a old dell ultra portable running a single core celeron 1.2ghz cpu with 512ram and having put Lubuntu on it (a version of Ubuntu which just uses a different 'front end' which is lighter on system resources than the normal Ubuntu), it is very fast, boots up and is online in under 40 seconds and closes down in under 5
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  • gonzo127 wrote: »
    some people are anti linux, just the same as you have some people anti apple and other anti windows, you also get people who believe that people should just stick with what they know (ie windows) because it is easier and that we should not encourage people to move out of their comfort zone but hey ho

    as to installing it, you just have to download the ISO file burn the image to disk and then set your system to boot from your disk drive - most versions of Linux give you the ability to 'try' the operating system, i would always recommend this, basically what it does is run the entire OS from the disk drive and your systems RAM without making any changes to your hard drive, this allows you to check for any potential hardware incompatabilities before you do anything.
    once you have tried this however and are happy that everything works then all you do is reboot and next time it gets to the option screen choose install and then it will walk you thorugh the process such as install alongside windows or totally format the drive and just install windows - normal installaiton takes 20-30 mins

    as to speeding up a laptop - yes it can if you pick the right version of Linux, i personally use a old dell ultra portable running a single core celeron 1.2ghz cpu with 512ram and having put Lubuntu on it, it is very fast, boots up and is online in under 40 seconds and closes down in under 5


    Sounds bang on mate. If it speeds up the netbook then I might do this, as I say I'm only surfing the net so shoudl have no compatability issues. The netbook sounds similar in spec to your laptop and the times you describe are exactly what I'm looking for.

    Sorry last question you mention burning it to CD, I have a 4gb usb can i burn linux onto this.
  • gonzo127
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    Sounds bang on mate. If it speeds up the netbook then I might do this, as I say I'm only surfing the net so shoudl have no compatability issues. The netbook sounds similar in spec to your laptop and the times you describe are exactly what I'm looking for.

    Sorry last question you mention burning it to CD, I have a 4gb usb can i burn linux onto this.

    yes you can

    http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
    Drop a brand challenge
    on a £100 shop you might on average get 70 items save
    10p per product = £7 a week ~ £28 a month
    20p per product = £14 a week ~ £56 a month
    30p per product = £21 a week ~ £84 a month (or in other words one weeks shoping at the new price)
  • esuhl
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    Why would people go mad for you suggesting Linux? Is it not rated on here?

    A lot of people tend to be "patriotic" (if that's the right word!) towards either Windows or Linux. Windows is great because it's easy to use, but requires anti-malware applications which can be slow to run on old hardware.

    Linux can be more "fiddly" to set up (requiring a bit more technical knowledge), although this really depends on the distribution you want to use. A "one-size-fits-all" distribution like Ubuntu is very easy to set up, but other distributions may require you to configure text files and read instructions or help pages, and in return you will have much more control over how the OS is set up.

    Different strokes for different folks...
    To remove windows and install Linux is it just a case of downloading and installing Linux or do I need to do something to remove windows?

    You usually just need to download an ISO image file, burn it to CD, then boot from that. You don't need to erase Windows first - when you set up the partitions on which you will install Linux, you can choose to delete the Windows partition (or not).
    Would Linux work on and speed up a notebook? As I may just get a cheap one of these for £200 if it does.

    It depends very much on what distribution of Linux you use, and what you want installed. Ubuntu probably won't run much (any?) quicker than Windows as it's pretty bloated to begin with, but with distributions like Arch you start off with a very minimal system (text-based command-prompt only), then install just the software you want. If you use a lightweight desktop environment like XFCE, and don't install un-necessary junk, your laptop will seem a fair bit quicker than if you were using Windows.

    Anyway, there are hundreds of Linux distributions that require/assume different levels of skill/knowledge, and are designed for different situations. It might be worth trying out a few to see what suits...
  • kabayiri
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    Sounds bang on mate. If it speeds up the netbook then I might do this, as I say I'm only surfing the net so shoudl have no compatability issues. The netbook sounds similar in spec to your laptop and the times you describe are exactly what I'm looking for.

    Sorry last question you mention burning it to CD, I have a 4gb usb can i burn linux onto this.
    When I had a work laptop, like you have, I used to boot it from a usb stick (4Gb one like you have), and run Linux like that.

    This way, I never touched the Windows environment on the laptop, or any software from work. They were fine about it.

    With a 4Gb usb stick you can carry all your programs and data on something which is small enough to fit in your wallet.

    It's just an idea of course, and very MSE ;)
  • penrhyn
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    I got an ex corporate Dell D610 from Bigpockets a couple of years ago never misses a beat.

    BTW It always amuses me when people come on saying I only use my computer for surfing, I never download anything.
    How do they think the webpages get to their PC?

    The other one is I never download anything, I've gone over my limit ,followed after a few posts by.....................O yes my son uses his X-Box for online gaming.

    Mini rant over.
    That gum you like is coming back in style.
  • penrhyn wrote: »
    I got an ex corporate Dell D610 from Bigpockets a couple of years ago never misses a beat.

    BTW It always amuses me when people come on saying I only use my computer for surfing, I never download anything.
    How do they think the webpages get to their PC?

    The other one is I never download anything, I've gone over my limit ,followed after a few posts by.....................O yes my son uses his X-Box for online gaming.

    Mini rant over.

    Cheers for the heads up on bigpockets.

    What I meant was that I won't be downloading anything from the Web i.e. videos etc. But I'm sure you already knew that!
  • What I meant was that I won't be downloading anything from the Web i.e. videos etc. But I'm sure you already knew that!

    Downloading doesn't always mean downloading a physical file e.g. mp3 or as you say video. In the case of videos even viewing a file on say Youtube counts as downloading (its classified as streaming) and the data that it takes to stream the video counts towards your monthly usage allowance, not a prob if you're on unlimited tho! :)
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  • getmore4less
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    have alook on your local freecycle/feggle.

    OCcatioanly you will get someone throwing out somthing that will work, we had someone who recycled some of there old work computers(dell) all with fresh installs so perfercly save.

    I have one as a baclkup.

    My proper machine is much newer £195 from dell outlet
    2 320 gig disk 3gig resonable spec for the rest.
  • RussJK
    RussJK Posts: 2,359 Forumite
    have alook on your local freecycle/feggle.

    Very good idea - I've just gone onto freegle & freecycle myself, and it has already paid off with an ADSL modem when a friend needed it.
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