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Any teachers out there who can answer a curiosity question?

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  • RAS
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    A British teacher in good standing in his profession is told that his nephew has been tried, convicted and jailed for several years for cruelty to his (the nephew's) 8 week old baby - so serious that most ribs are broken, as well as a skull fracture and possibly permanent brain damage is caused.


    I think it is quite possible that the nephew's name may not be made public, in order to protect the child, particularly if there is an unusual surname.
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  • Janepig
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    RAS wrote: »
    I think it is quite possible that the nephew's name may not be made public, in order to protect the child, particularly if there is an unusual surname.

    What is often the case is that reports won't name the child, they'll name him (the nephew) and say that he's been convicted of offences against "a child", not stating that it's his son or daughter. This is what happens in most sex offences (and I'm not saying for a minute it should be any different) which is why alot of people think there's a bogeyman around every corner ready to abuse their children if they get any amount of freedom, not realising that 99.9% of the sex abuse cases that get reported have family members as the victims.

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  • ailuro2
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    The person in question wouldn't HAVE to inform anyone, but because his pupils might find out and start a whispering campaign it might be better to inform his head of department / head teacher depending on type of school he was in - that way it stops any malicious gossip affecting his career path.

    eta the same would go for anyone who works in an environment where malicious gossip could affect the way the people they work with treat them - rightly or wrongly.
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  • Becles
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    I guess it depends on how close he is to the nephew. If it was someone he saw a few times a week or lived with, I could understand concern.

    My family isn't that close and I've not seen my aunt's and uncle's for years. In fact I walked past an aunt a few months back and didn't recognise her and I think she was a bit miffed :o

    Suppose it was my who had been convicted, it would be very unfair for the aunt or uncle to be punished as they have absolutely no idea how I live my life.
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  • I'm going to sing from the other song sheet, why WOULDN'T the teacher mention it? He has nothing to hide, nothing to be ashamed of, and therefore why "hide" the fact? I would tell your superior as a matter of course, its much better coming from you than other folk, which would question the fact of, why wasn't it mentioned in the first place?
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  • ali-t
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    I agree with podperson, particularly as the case may hit the papers.

    It is also likely there will be a significant case review into the child death to look at what any agencies involved (e.g. social work, health or education) could or should have done differently. In the area I work in significant case reviews are used to shape practice so the contents would feature in training in different agencies and it could be a bit difficult if the teacher is sitting in training and her nephew is being spoken about.
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  • Violetta_2
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    ali-t wrote: »
    I agree with podperson, particularly as the case may hit the papers.

    It is also likely there will be a significant case review into the child death to look at what any agencies involved (e.g. social work, health or education) could or should have done differently. In the area I work in significant case reviews are used to shape practice so the contents would feature in training in different agencies and it could be a bit difficult if the teacher is sitting in training and her nephew is being spoken about.
    Nephew might be a cruel person but you've just killed the poor baby!!!
    Probably best to tell his employer if there is likely to be media interested, but I don't think anyone should think any the worse of the teacher/uncle because of the awful thing his nephew did.
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  • ali-t
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    Violetta, I wrote my post in a hurry so didn't put myself across properly lol. I couldn't think what the nephews child would be as a named relative to the OP. Is it a great nephew?
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  • cgk1
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    This is a frankly very odd question, unless some particular incident happens at the school, it's nothing to do with the school and the teacher has no legal, moral or otherwise reason to inform his superior.
    Is there a law to compel the teacher to inform anyone of this?

    Absolutely none.
    Once he knows the fact, must and in what circumstances has he to declare it

    None, he was unconnected (from the facts you have supplied) to the case, it's irrelevant to him in any legal sense.
    I'm not a teacher but to the best of my knowledge there would only be a legal requirement if the nephew was at any time during the period of abuse part of the household of the teacher or that there was a period of time during which the teacher was in a position where he/she would have been "close" to the abuse.

    This is simply wrong - unless the teacher is suspected or convicted of some wrong-doing himself, it makes no difference to him. The teacher could have a close brother who is found naked in the high street humping a pit pony and it makes absolutely no difference to the teacher's legal position.
  • peachyprice
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    I'm going to sing from the other song sheet, why WOULDN'T the teacher mention it? He has nothing to hide, nothing to be ashamed of, and therefore why "hide" the fact? I would tell your superior as a matter of course, its much better coming from you than other folk, which would question the fact of, why wasn't it mentioned in the first place?

    Not mentioning something to your employer that is nothing to do with you is not hiding it. Frankly it's none of the schools business what the teachers nephew has done. Would you really walk into work and tell your employers about the antics of your extended family?
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