Brent oil strikes two-year peak above $104 per barrel get ready for $150

Asheron

Kohoutek wrote: »

The oil price spiked in 2008 because supply has not increased since 2004/5 and demand has increased a lot. Attributing it to a conspiracy is bizarre.

Wrong................. Lindsey Williams was told Oil was going from $150 to $50 a Barrel in July 2008 and many people made a lot of money from what he was told.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhXQAJENVxQ

You all laughed at him when he said $50

They flooded the market with Oil to do it

Now he is saying $150 - $200

smeagold

Kohoutek wrote: »

The Israeli Defence Force and Iranian Revolutionary Guard serving side by side? How about the US Army and the Russian Army, holding hands too?

If China's largest source of overseas oil gets attacked by the US, I would expect WWIII, not one world government.

I thought you watched "money as debt" Smeagold? Didn't you appreciate the point it made that a monetary system based compounding debt doesn't need design or planning for it to collapse?

The New World Order is really the Old World Order: the Anglo American empire, its an attempt by western global elites to create a new world system in which they have the most control.

your right about the monetary system but its collapse is being accelerated through money printing and inflation, they all know the dollar centric system is collapsing, they are planning what comes after:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/10/markets/dollar/

As for WWIII, thats a possibility. We are most certainly entering a period of great uncertainty and upheaval and nobody knows what will happen, what i do know tho is that there is a push by political and banking elites in the west to create a one world government and financial system. wether they will be successful or not I don't know.

smeagold

Asheron wrote: »

Wrong................. Lindsey Williams was told Oil was going from $150 to $50 a Barrel in July 2008 and many people made a lot of money from what he was told.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhXQAJENVxQ

You all laughed at him when he said $50

They flooded the market with Oil to do it

Now he is saying $150 - $200

Yes I remember that, everyone laughed as they all thought it was going to $200 by the end of 2008, Jim Tucker predicted it(informants from within Bildeberg) and was right.

Kohoutek

Asheron wrote: »

Wrong................. Lindsey Williams was told Oil was going from $150 to $50 a Barrel in July 2008 and many people made a lot of money from what he was told.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhXQAJENVxQ

You all laughed at him when he said $50

Anyone who was predicting a global recession would have made the same prediction.

Asheron wrote: »

They flooded the market with Oil to do it

So you're saying the fall in the price of oil in 2008 was nothing to do with the global financial crisis?

bendix

Kohoutek wrote: »

Anyone who was predicting a global recession would have made the same prediction.



So you're saying the fall in the price of oil in 2008 was nothing to do with the global financial crisis?

Of course not Kohoutek. It's all to do with the secret discussions and agreements of a few select banking families behind the scene. Because they want to control the world, don't you know.

I'm curious . . and perhaps smeagold can enlighten me.

If these New World Order bankers - and he's named the Rothschilds, Morgans, Rockefellers etc - have the power to cause oil prices to rise and can bring on a global recession, WHY do they need a world single government? Surely they control the world already?

I don't get it. Please explain.

purch

Baron M.A. Rothschild wrote, "Give me control over a nation's currency and I care not who makes its laws."

A few things.

The exact quote should be “Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes the laws.”

He was not a Baron.

Mayer Amshel Bauer was a coin dealer in Frankfurt in the 1740's who took the coat of arms of Frankfurt, added a few bits, and as the result was a eagle on top of a red shield changed the family name to Rothschild.

He made the first family fortune by investing the money the state of Hesse made by providing mercenaries to the British to fight the colonial wars.

His son's established branches on the family business around Europe, with Nathan Mayer Rothschild opening the branch in London.

It was Nathan Mayer Rothschild who first started calling himself Baron Rothschild, but of course it was only an assumed title, as the Rothschild family are self made entrepreneurs.

bendix

Asheron's reference to Lindsey Williams made me curious about who this wonderful truth seer is, so I googled him. Mmmmmmmmm . . evidently he is some obscure Baptist Minister who - for some bizarre reason - has published a book exposing the truths about oil production.

Rather curiously, when you google the guy, the only reference to the book I can find is that it is heavily promoted on three websites. His own (as you would expect), and one called www.reformation.org, which seems to be some quasi-religious nutjob site promoting, as well as other things, the fact that the world doesn't in fact spin on its axis and anyone who says it does is deluded. Ummm, ok.

Oh . I forgot to mention Pastor William's third main supporter. None other than our very own UK loony, David Icke, one time goalkeeper, turned tv personality, who then had a complete breakdown, took to wearing only turquoise, proclaimed himself to be the Son of God on primetime tv and whose main political beliefs are based on the premise that the human race is the result of a breeding program organised by the Reptilians from outerspace, and was created by this master race of .. ummm lizards . . to control us. Many of the leading organisations and most famous people in the world today are, in fact Reptilians (it gets better, wait for it), including George W Bush (well that explains a lot, i suppose), Queen Elizabeth II and . . . god help us . . Kris Kristofferson and Boxcar Willie.

I post this to give our more sober members some context to help explain the subtleties of Asheron and smeagold's thinking. I hope it helps.


In summary - the essence of Ash and smeagold's argument on this thread is that oil prices are NOT influenced by anything as mundane as supply and demand. On the contrary, they're controlled by newts.

It all makes sense when you think about it logically.

bendix

Ok. I'm going to ask it again. If there is a cabul of banking families (or lizards, if you believe David Icke) who have a New World Order 'one world government, one currency' agenda, and they already are so powerful as to be able to raise and lower commodity prices and create a financial meltdown, WHY do they need to create a one world government.

Don't they have that power already?

What exactly would they have in this new regime that they dont have already.

Please explain

Kohoutek

Gorda_de_Oro wrote: »

President John F Kennedy made this speech at Columbia University on November 12th 1963

“The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American’s freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight...

He didn't actually say that.

Gorda_de_Oro wrote: »

We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence…”

10 days later he was assassinated !!!

Let me put that into context for you:

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections...It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

Perhaps he was referring to the Soviet Union, not the Illuminati?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23995241/John-F-Kennedy-Ruthless-Conspiracy-Speech

bendix

Kohoutek wrote: »

He didn't actually say that.



Let me put that into context for you:



Perhaps he was referring to the Soviet Union, not the Illuminati?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23995241/John-F-Kennedy-Ruthless-Conspiracy-Speech

Or the lizard men. Don't forget the lizard people.