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Rental Income - effect on benefits

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  • unless the property is the asset of a limited company then there is no distinction between him owning the property and the business. They are one and the same thing.

    Sometimes it is possible to claim benefits for a short period (6 months i think) whilst you are trying to sell a house you own but do not currently live in. E G it is rented and tenants are under notice or you are trying to sell or is part of a financial dispute resolution associated with divorce proceedings.

    Claim benefits whilst tenant's serve notice period and the rent will be counted as income, then move in after they leave.
  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    And, of course, he used to be an accountant!

    I thought you needed to be intelligent to be an accountant!
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    healy wrote: »
    I thought you needed to be intelligent to be an accountant!

    Don't be daft!
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    goffo wrote: »
    errrr read again - then have a chat with the CAB!!!

    But you also wrote "I think you need to see a qualified chartered accountant to check that out!" FIRST!
  • shikoku
    shikoku Posts: 671 Forumite
    Good heavens he does get very worked up doesn't he? :)
    ~*~ If you don't need it, it isn't a bargain ~*~
  • real1314
    real1314 Posts: 4,432 Forumite
    goffo wrote: »
    In part right, in part wrong.

    You seem to be forgetting that the OP doesn't have the property. If the balance sheet and business has been set up properly, the property is with the business which is used to generate an income for the OP. The OP obviously has to account to the council for any income he gets from the business, but the OP has said that this year is a loss!!

    What is so wrong in leasing a £70,000 Range Rover for the business? Yes he would suffer some liability 'if' it was used for business purposes, but what happens if he has another car that is used for private purposes only.
    HMRC have no say in what car he leases! Could be a Mini or an Aston even!!

    As I have said, the OP needs to take on some advice from a Chartered Account as regards business planning.


    Rather than suggesting I'm "part right, part wrong" you should review what the OP said. I'm not sure how you've concluded that "the OP doesn't have the property" - he says he owns it, which would make it a personal investment.

    I'm rather curious as to why you have jumped to this conclusion, and contradicted my post based on this assumption. It suggests that you were just waiting for such a post to espouse your view?

    Anyhow, the idea of frittering capital to avoid tax liability is one of the worst examples of accountancy advice I've ever heard of.

    What's more, where you say "Yes he would suffer some liability 'if' it was used for business purposes" - I think you've misunderstood the tax rules - the liability would arise if used for personal purposes. What would be the point of buying a car to service a single property and not making any personal use of the vehicle? The costs would be counter-productive.

    A decent accountant would advise using excess income wisely to grow the business and to sweat the assets. You are clearly not one of those.
  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    real1314 wrote: »
    Rather than suggesting I'm "part right, part wrong" you should review what the OP said. I'm not sure how you've concluded that "the OP doesn't have the property" - he says he owns it, which would make it a personal investment.

    I'm rather curious as to why you have jumped to this conclusion, and contradicted my post based on this assumption. It suggests that you were just waiting for such a post to espouse your view?

    Anyhow, the idea of frittering capital to avoid tax liability is one of the worst examples of accountancy advice I've ever heard of.

    What's more, where you say "Yes he would suffer some liability 'if' it was used for business purposes" - I think you've misunderstood the tax rules - the liability would arise if used for personal purposes. What would be the point of buying a car to service a single property and not making any personal use of the vehicle? The costs would be counter-productive.

    A decent accountant would advise using excess income wisely to grow the business and to sweat the assets. You are clearly not one of those.

    He is not an Accountant - he is the troll andyandflo etc - been at the sauce and drugs again.
  • viktory
    viktory Posts: 7,635 Forumite
    Bless, lovely to have dear old Andy back.....again.
  • viktory wrote: »
    Bless, lovely to have dear old Andy back.....again.


    He's been back a while, though under different AEs too! :rotfl:
    Be happy, it's the greatest wealth :)
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    ...(mortgaged but there is equity in it) ...
    How much equity?
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