wikaniko

Peter_Pan

niftyone wrote: »

IMHO i think this is one to give a wide berth no one seems to be able to show that reasonable money is being made, and some of the products they sell leave a lot to be desired.I am all for making a difference but not by losing money.:D

Thats for everyone to make their own decision.

What do people call reasonable money? This term keeps being banded around, i fail to see how you can lose money, even if you only buy your own products at distributor price you will recoup your joining fee, share the products with friends and family and you recoup it quicker, share them locally and you recoup your joining fee and earn an extra income as well. How fast is entirely up to you.

Yes it takes effort and time to find the customers and how long we choose to find those customers is our individual choice.

I personally am very happy with almost all of the products.

I have had past experience of a new Company several years ago which infortunately didn't last longer than 18 months as it couldn't keep up with the growth because too many networkers jumped on board and it was more about recruiting than retailing which is obviously the life blood of any Business, i have been very impressed with the way this Business is growing within its means and at a suitable pace and to be honest if people are waiting for the big money to be earnt thats great because its the people in now doing the work to get the name known, putting in group/training systems, developing leadership skills and doing stalls, fetes, brochures, approaching local groups, Businesses that will ultimately earn that good money which in my opinion is fair.

If everyone sat back waiting for big cheques to appear then it wouldn't happen would it? and people critise those in other networks who get big cheques but they haven't earned them by sitting back doing nothing, someone has to do the groundwork and get the name known , repair damage in their local area where other brochure companies have changed distributor every week, not collected brochures on time, not delivered orders, put on training systems and other systems to help new people etc etc.

To me this Business feels totally different to other ones, i am becoming increasingly passionate about chemicals being reduced in peoples homes - why take the risk when there are alternatives? Its taken me 47 years to come to that conclusion and it wasn't Wikaniko that awoke me to it, i had woken up before and saw this as a way of reducing the risk (unnecessary risk in my view) for my family and help the Planet by making people aware of alternatives to harsh chemicals and plastics which not only damage the Planet but also kills wildlife.
This Business is a way i can afford to protect my family and do my bit and a vehicle to make alot more people aware. It has been a real eye opener since joining and talking to similar minded people across the world. I;m not a fantatical green person but can see the huge difference we could all make if we all just went a bit greener.

I'm off my soapbox now

Debbie

Chumleigh

Thanks for all the info. I have decided to give it a miss.

Sixer

Peter_Pan wrote: »

To me this Business feels totally different to other ones, i am becoming increasingly passionate about chemicals being reduced in peoples homes - why take the risk when there are alternatives? Its taken me 47 years to come to that conclusion and it wasn't Wikaniko that awoke me to it, i had woken up before and saw this as a way of reducing the risk (unnecessary risk in my view) for my family and help the Planet by making people aware of alternatives to harsh chemicals and plastics which not only damage the Planet but also kills wildlife.
This Business is a way i can afford to protect my family and do my bit and a vehicle to make alot more people aware. It has been a real eye opener since joining and talking to similar minded people across the world. I;m not a fantatical green person but can see the huge difference we could all make if we all just went a bit greener.

Debbie

While I sympathise with this attitude, Debbie, I've looked at the Wikaniko products and I have huge reservations. There are a number of discredited quack items in the range (the fuel economiser, for instance) and the cleaning products are very expensive. If people want to use fewer chemicals in their homes, they can stop buying surfactant detergents and use white vinegar and lemon juice, and replace expensive products with a solution of Ecover washing up liquid. They can also go to their local health food shop and get their bottles refilled instead of buying new ones from a catalogue each time. Wikaniko isn't filling an empty niche - and the implication that it is is deceptive - and it is trying to persuade people to spend more money than they need to.

I think it's largely a marketing exercise. A good analogy for me would be the proliferation of so-called diet products shouting 97% fat free!! when the product is actually 97% sugar. Yes, we should consider the health implications of being overweight, but that doesn't make it ok for people to charge over the odds for products that may or may not be the best environmental alternative.

ikologik

Forgive me if this has already been posted, although I can't see it in the current thread -
Business Opportunity Watch magazine did a review of Wikaniko and gave it their highest score (9 out of 10) I can't post the link but I'm sure you'd find it via google.

Like Debbie, i am a distributor - it takes a hell of a lot to convince me that a "business opportunity" is worth while, but I have been very happy with Wikaniko and the general ethics and structure of the company so far in the 16 months I've been involved. They do not claim to be "deep green" and indeed some of the products do contain ingredients that I'm far from happy with, but I just avoid those products and do not promote them. With over 1000 products in total there's always going to be something for everyone in my opinion.

bloss0m

ikologik
well you like it so much thats all your post above on mse

ikologik

If you look the the reviews on the Ethical Consumer website, you'll find that Ecover products generally scores rather poorly in comparison with the Bio-D products (sold by Wikaniko) that consistently come top of the ratings.

It is also possible to purchase bulk supplies (on the web) of Bio-D products to refill the smaller (well, not so small, one litre bottles)

Sixer wrote: »

While I sympathise with this attitude, Debbie, I've looked at the Wikaniko products and I have huge reservations. There are a number of discredited quack items in the range (the fuel economiser, for instance) and the cleaning products are very expensive. If people want to use fewer chemicals in their homes, they can stop buying surfactant detergents and use white vinegar and lemon juice, and replace expensive products with a solution of Ecover washing up liquid. They can also go to their local health food shop and get their bottles refilled instead of buying new ones from a catalogue each time. Wikaniko isn't filling an empty niche - and the implication that it is is deceptive - and it is trying to persuade people to spend more money than they need to.

I think it's largely a marketing exercise. A good analogy for me would be the proliferation of so-called diet products shouting 97% fat free!! when the product is actually 97% sugar. Yes, we should consider the health implications of being overweight, but that doesn't make it ok for people to charge over the odds for products that may or may not be the best environmental alternative.

NeverInDebt

yes it amazing how many crawl out of the woodwork once another thread gets posted

All they are interested its getting others to sign up under the pretence of informing us all how good it is

bloss0m wrote: »

ikologik
well you like it so much thats all your post above on mse

ikologik

Everyone should of course do their own research - I mentioned the BOW review to enable anyone interested to read an unbiased opinion.

There are scores of home business opportunities out there - some good and some not so good

Peter_Pan

Sixer wrote: »

While I sympathise with this attitude, Debbie, I've looked at the Wikaniko products and I have huge reservations. There are a number of discredited quack items in the range (the fuel economiser, for instance) and the cleaning products are very expensive. If people want to use fewer chemicals in their homes, they can stop buying surfactant detergents and use white vinegar and lemon juice, and replace expensive products with a solution of Ecover washing up liquid. They can also go to their local health food shop and get their bottles refilled instead of buying new ones from a catalogue each time. Wikaniko isn't filling an empty niche - and the implication that it is is deceptive - and it is trying to persuade people to spend more money than they need to.

I think it's largely a marketing exercise. A good analogy for me would be the proliferation of so-called diet products shouting 97% fat free!! when the product is actually 97% sugar. Yes, we should consider the health implications of being overweight, but that doesn't make it ok for people to charge over the odds for products that may or may not be the best environmental alternative.

There are a couple of products that are on the website that I don't understand how they work and have no interest personally and for this reason i don't actively promote them and haven't sold any of them. I may get around to trying them myself and make my own decision at some point.

As for the old fashioned methods of cleaning if you take a look at the website there is a whole section on that and cooking as granny did etc so people can decide for themselves if they want to try those methods or use a more eco-friendly ready produced product from the website. Its all about giving people the information to make an informed decision for themselves as to what they want to do.

Yes there are Ecover products available but not everyone gets on with them and Wikaniko is about showing people they can have all the products at the tip of their finger tips instead of spending more time going round different shops trying to find the products they want. When you are on a tight budget the last thing you want to do is have to spend time trying to find a suitable alternative at the right price and even then how do you know how eco-friendly it is - toiletries for example only have to one or two natural ingredients in for it to be ok to be called natural when in fact there are lots of other potentially harmful ingredients in it as well. Wikaniko solved that for me and gave me a way to earn some extra cash so i could afford to pay for better products for my family and the environment instead of not having the choice but to buy the cheap nasty products on the market. I think it fits the niche of having such a variety of eco-friendly products all in one place.

Its not going to suit everyone and to be honest i personally don't want to see this going down the same route as other network companies where people are persuaded in at the large cheques being banded around and false expectations, i would rather have a team of people who really do care about the Planet, who want a way to be able give their family the choice of using natural products and who if they wish can build their own teams of the same like minded people. Doing this the income will build naturally while still doing our bit for our families wellbeing and helping the environment for future generations as well.

billsavings

ikologik wrote: »

Everyone should of course do their own research - I mentioned the BOW review to enable anyone interested to read an unbiased opinion.

You have mentioned that out of date review 3 times in the 6 posts you have made here all about Wikaniko.
I suspect you only post here to get recruits.

Giving this is the up your income section can you give us an idea of what an average distributor might earn with Wikaniko?