Correct Post Nominals Query

machtzu

SlyOne wrote: »

I'm not sure you can use both. I think the IEE left it to its members to decide whether they still want to use MIEE or the new MIET. In any case, having both is kind of superfluous, since they are both referring to your membership of the exact same organisation.

To answer your question though, I'd go for:

Your Name MIET

Degree post-nominals look a bit "desperate" to me, as in crying out for attention. Except perhaps, like someone said, on a business card or letter head. Even then, 2-3 is probably the limit.

Ahh no the second should have been MIEEE which is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (the worldwide one).

SlyOne_2

machtzu wrote: »

Ahh no the second should have been MIEEE which is the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (the worldwide one).

Another full-fledged electrical engineer eh?

melancholly

compound - always write MA with (Oxon) in brackets afterwards. then it should be clear that it's not a postgrad qualification. (at least that's the guidelines i was given with my cantab one!)

to the OP - i have a section of my CV titled 'professional memberships' - only have one thing listed, but that's where the guideline CVs from my careers service had it!

machtzu

SlyOne wrote: »

Another full-fledged electrical engineer eh?

That's me, only took 5 years and about £20K to become an expert on everything. That said it is the hardest degree known to man!!

SlyOne_2

Having been through the system, I concur.

Apologies to others for going OT.

SPotter_3

The IEEE doesn't have a royal charter, but then, the IEEE is U.S.A. based.
(So is the NPA, who offer/administer the CNP)
The U.S.A. doesn't have a royal family and isn't a colony, anymore.

So, Given: I.S.P., IEng, HNC, MIED, MIEEE now, and currently applying for CITP, MBCS, and CNP, and working on an MScIS, I THINK the correct order is Professional (alphabetic?), followed by academics (decreasing importance), followed by memberships (increasing importance), e.g.:-
Fred Bloggs CITP, CNP, I.S.P., IEng, MScIS, HNC, MIEEE, MNPA, MIED, MBCS

I am not sure about the alphabetic order of professional letters.
I am not sure about decreasing order of academics.
I am not sure if HNC is allowed.
I am not sure if MNPA is allowed (presumably same issues as for MIEEE).

Who sets the rules, anyway?

If the U.S.A. doesn't have access to "Royal Charter" then what are the rules for U.S. post-nominals?

Comments?

stevey2005

I am graduting now in July with a BSc Hons in Computing and also a assoicate member of the BCS.

My name and post nominal letters are: Mr ### ### B.Sc(Hons) DIS AMBCS


(DIS - stands for diploma in industrial studies)

dmg24

stevey2005 wrote: »

I am graduting now in July with a BSc Hons in Computing and also a assoicate member of the BCS.

My name and post nominal letters are: Mr ### ### B.Sc(Hons) DIS AMBCS


(DIS - stands for diploma in industrial studies)

Do you really need to put a diploma in your title? :rolleyes:

SPotter_3

Wikipedia entry on the topic says:-

"Post-nominal letters are letters placed after the name of a person to indicate that the individual holds a position, office, or honour. An individual may use several different sets of post-nominal letters. Honours are listed first in descending order of precedence, followed by degrees and memberships of learned societies in ascending order."

So, honours and titles first, descending, then academic degrees and memberships, ascending:-

If I put my current letters together, with the MBCS CITP element corrected from earlier posting:-
I.S.P., CNP, IEng, MIED, MIEEE, MNPA, MBCS CITP

If I succeed with my MScIS, in a couple of years,
it would go after titles and designations, and before professional memberships:-
I.S.P., CNP, IEng, MScIS, MIED, MIEEE, MNPA, MBCS CITP

Soon there will be a new Canadian Information Technology Professional (CITP)
(Which will get confused with Chartered IT Professional in the U.K.)
and a new IITP (International) is coming in 2009.

So I could end up, in a couple of years, with:-
IITP, CITP, I.S.P., CNP, IEng, MScIS, MIED, MIEEE, MNPA, MBCS CITP
(assuming the International IITP carries more weight than country specific titles).

It is getting a bit silly, isn't it?

andysuth

The thing about these letters is that it not only tells other people what you have, but also what you don't have.

If you really want to put the degree related ones in, (e.g. BEng) then it tells people (by omission) that you don't have MEng.

Similarly, if your name is not preceeded by "Dr." and there is no "PhD" (or DPhil or MD or similar) it tells people you have not got a doctorate.

I've got a fair few letters after my name, and if I'm dealing with people in various different roles I change the ones that appear.

Usually, for standard emails and correspondences there's nothing after my name.

If it's official and one of the early correspondences I use "CEng MIED ACGI".

If it's product design related I use "MA(RCA)".

If it's engineering related and I want to show I did IC postgrad I put "DIC" into the mix.

I do disagree with the Masters PNs making the Batchelors PNs obsolete. If I were to apply for an engineering job with "MA" on my business card, I'd be laughed out of the room.

I never use all of them. It looks like that Monty Python Sketch where the doctors name plate has a gate in it there's so many. It would be "needy".

I don't have a PhD, and some people look down on this, so I just keep it short (unlike this post I've written).

-AS