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assessment of nursing needs.
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The main issue is if a person has primary health needs. The NHS and social services are doing their best to muddy the waters on this and will use expressions such as has needs that are intensive or unpredictable or complex, but the key point is that if a persons needs are primarily health needs then the NHS are liable to pay the full cost of any care package....................and they don't like to do that."You should know not to believe everything in media & polls by now !"
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and a health need remains a health need even if it's currently well-managed and therefore causing fewer problems than it would if it wasn't well-managed IYSWIM ...Signature removed for peace of mind0
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There has been a couple of developments in this but I cannot post them at the moment . However I can say that the discharge nurse encouraged me to make my own comments on the assessment and is going to incorporate them into the final document and I am seeing that today.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.0
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The home I've just been to see is unlikely to be suitable either as the only free room is at the top of a flight of stairs and no one seems sure whether dad wil regain his ability to walk or not. If he does walk again then the room is too dangerous for him, such a shame.
My mother was recently moved rooms after a change in policy following a fire in a different care home. All chair or bed bound residents now have to be ground level where it would be easier to remove them in an emergancy.0 -
There has been a couple of developments in this but I cannot post them at the moment . However I can say that the discharge nurse encouraged me to make my own comments on the assessment and is going to incorporate them into the final document and I am seeing that today.
The discharge nurses encouragement is interesting. It may be that the official line will be your Dad is not ill enough for nursing supplement or fully funded CHC. The nurses encouragement may indicate that their opinion is he should be entitled. This is, however, speculating that when dealing with the NHS you have to listen out for hidden messages.0 -
well, without a medical background I can sympathise with the hospital policy: Dad didn't have dementia but towards the end he wasn't always on the same planet as the rest of us, and might have hung on longer if he hadn't yanked his drip out in the middle of the night, presumably because it was rather irritating! and having had tubes attached to my hand and foot lately I can vouch for that: I yanked the hand one out by mistake myself!
it must be very difficult to keep drips in place when someone doesn't know what's what and keeps pulling them out.
I agree. And the risk of pulling one out when it catches on the sheet or something - this has happened.
It's not totally unknown for someone to pull out a catheter. Given that they are kept in place by a little balloon containing 10 ml sterile water, this can cause damage either to the bladder lining, the bladder neck, or the urethra. Brings tears to the eyes just to think about it, but it has been known.[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Æ[/FONT]r ic wisdom funde, [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]æ[/FONT]r wear[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]ð[/FONT] ic eald.
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My mother was recently moved rooms after a change in policy following a fire in a different care home. All chair or bed bound residents now have to be ground level where it would be easier to remove them in an emergancy.
Virtually none of the care homes i am looking at have downstairs bedrooms. I have just viewed one though where the staris are protected by a door that is also key pad protected. Even the lift used to transport patients down to the lounges is key card protectedI’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.0
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