New Peugeot advert. What the mileages really mean...

mikey72

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epninety

mikey72 wrote: »

The Vauxhall is limnited to 100,000 miles, but no time expiry.
They do have the opt-out to scrap for an agreed value if the car can't be repaired though.

It's also limited to the first owner, with full service history, and excludes wear & tear, and consequential damage.

I imagine a fairly small proportion of owners buy a new Vauxhall, and then keep it for 100k miles, so the cost to Vauxhall per vehicle sold is reduced by that fraction.

Wear & Tear could cover a lot of things by 100k miles - at 97k when your starter motor packs in, or a brake caliper starts leaking fluid, has it 'failed' or is it simply worn out?

And if your battery fails and kills your alternator, you get a new battery, but might have to pay for Vauxhall to replace the alternator at main dealer prices?

I'll pass thanks!

Lum

Inactive wrote: »

The C'eed is not made in Korea.

Thank you Captain Pedantic.

Kia are a Korean company. It was the Korean (and Malaysian) car manufacturers that had a bad reputation in the 90s.


(plus if you want to get really pedantic, I said "Kias and Korean cars")

Nilrem

Lum wrote: »

Kias, and Korean cars in general, have a bit of a reputation left over from the late 90s of being poorly built and unreliable. They're basically in the position that Japanese cars were in the early 80s.

Offering a long warranty is the easiest way to deal with these fears.

A cynic might also suggest that their business model is to slap them together cheaply with poor quality control and just fix the ones that break.

That's true to an extent, although IIRC the Koreans also build a lot of very high quality metalwork stuff.

I suspect the warranty is largely to allay fears based on the old reputation, but also a sign of confidence in the build quality.

They tend not to be cutting edge designs, but that also means they tend to be using tried and tested parts/manufacturing methods for much of the car, and less complex systems than some of the other manufacturers so reliability is improved in a relatively cost effective way

We actually got ours after talking to a few friends/neighbours who'd had Kia's for a while and were happy, and since we've had ours I've noticed a number of local cab firms have been using Kia's rather than the normal Fords etc.

Lum

To be honest, I agree with you on using more basic simple stuff to make them easier to maintain vs having the utmost in refinement. No dual mass flywheel on the diesels is a major plus point in my mind. If I were looking for a cheap boring runabout, and wanted something newer than a 90s Japanese workhorse, they'd definitely be on my list.

That said a guy in work just got a Hyundai i20 as a hire car earlier today, and while it's pretty bland with hard grey plastic everywhere, I did like the fact that, even on this base model, it had an aux in and a USB port for an MP3 player. The kind of thing that most likely matters to someone buying this type of car.

puddy

ive got a micra that is 6 this month, i want it to last another 5 years, i thought this would be possible?? its done 61k, so would end up having about 110k miles, is that likely

mikey72

We've got
one 7 years old
one 13 years old
one 23 years old
one 44 years old
and a truck 14 years old.

All going well.

None are micra's I'm afraid though.

property.advert

For a regular run of the mill A to B car the long warranty makes more and more sense especially when combined with a decent price from Kia or Hyundai for instance. Of course you have Toyota at 5 years and then the Dagenam dustbins at barely 2 or 3.

If you want to sell after a few years, just how important and valuable do you think 3 years remaining warranty is to the buyer. Let me tell you, it is very important.

jase1

Aye.

When you can get a 2 1/2 year old Cee'd from Trade Sales for £5500, which still has over four years of warranty left, it makes a compelling case for itself.

They still don't beat the 1990s Jap cars that would just keep hauling themselves along pretty much indefinitely until the rust took hold at about 15. And still with reliability that would make some new car owners jealous. 265,000 miles on my petrol Primera when I got rid, with no timing chain replacement, no engine rebuild of any kind, no work done on the gearbox and no sign of impending doom. Just tatty.

Inactive

jase1 wrote: »

They still don't beat the 1990s Jap cars that would just keep hauling themselves along pretty much indefinitely until the rust took hold at about 15. And still with reliability that would make some new car owners jealous. 265,000 miles on my petrol Primera when I got rid, with no timing chain replacement, no engine rebuild of any kind, no work done on the gearbox and no sign of impending doom. Just tatty.

Agreed, and then they got in to bed with Renault, and things went rapidly downhill.

The old pre 2000 Primera was/is a fantastic car.