How the baby boomers have stuffed the younger generation

ILW

There does appear the be an attitude presented by an earlier poster that seems to be come from a sense of entitlement that says "i stayed at school for longer than others so I deserve a better lifestyle". In the real world it does not happen like that and never did.

abaxas

Running_Horse wrote: »

I hope people are not so spiteful to me when I get old.

Not after a lifetime of hard work, low wages, and modest pension.

Not so long ago thousands of pensioners froze to death every winter.

When did this country get so mean spirited?

Becasue people are paying for others but wont get the same treatment themselves.

If you walked into a store and someone said 'sorry but it's a 20p in a pound surcharge for people over 50' you'd be very unhappy.

Percy1983

Blobby8 wrote: »

Pity you didnt study arithmetic, then you would know you havent worked twice as hard.

Nope I studied accounts... :rotfl:

Anyway I was working from 15 while studying to which I had very long weeks, so wasn't have the idle student life.

Yes I could have gone straight into better paid work at the time but if I did my income would be nowhere near what it is now.

Yes there is many definitions of working hard I will admit and many would argue I do nothing at all as I sit at a desk, but doing many hours of study while working full time to work in a sector mnay would class as hard work (depending on opinion).

To put another slant on it my dad worked full time and my mum part time, yet my better half and I both need to work full time to get the same chance (so approx 30% more on hours counting). Thats ignoring the work we have had to do to get ourselves higher salarys respectively.

ILW

abaxas wrote: »

Becasue people are paying for others but wont get the same treatment themselves.

If you walked into a store and someone said 'sorry but it's a 20p in a pound surcharge for people over 50' you'd be very unhappy.

Are taxes higher now than they were 30 years ago?

If not, what are you going on about.

abaxas

ILW wrote: »

Are taxes higher now than they were 30 years ago?

If not, what are you going on about.

A larger %age of the tax take is given out as pensions. Either state pension, or those where nothing was saved. More spent on pensions, less on services.

Dont quote me on this, but isnt about 25% of council tax used simply for paying pensions now? Expected to rise to 35-40% over the next 20 years. If needed I'll find the link.

Wheezy_2

Percy1983 wrote: »

I am getting closer to buying every month and will soon be there.

From your username, I suspect you're 27. (correct me if I'm wrong)
And you're close to buying.
Average FTB age is 37.
Not sure what you're complaining about :think:

Percy1983 wrote: »

The point is I have had to work twice as hard as the generation before to get the same thing.

All I can say to that is :

ILW

abaxas wrote: »

A larger %age of the tax take is given out as pensions. Either state pension, or those where nothing was saved. More spent on pensions, less on services.

Dont quote me on this, but isnt about 25% of council tax used simply for paying pensions now? Expected to rise to 35-40% over the next 20 years. If needed I'll find the link.

That is just council employee pensions.

mystic_trev

Of course it's tough for you young'uns these days, and yes House prices are overvalued, but that's the market rate and that's what you'll have to pay.

It was hardly 'a piece of cake' when I bought my first place, in late 1982. I furnished the House with a couple of deckchairs in the Lounge, and a few bit and pieces bought from a Jumble sale. No car, as I couldn't afford that and a mortgage. *Youngsters I see buying today wouldn't dream of buying a place without nice furnishings and a flat screen TV with Sky etc, and the car couldn't be any older than a couple of years!

* down my way

Percy1983

Wheezy wrote: »

From your username, I suspect you're 27. (correct me if I'm wrong)
And you're close to buying.
Average FTB age is 37.
Not sure what you're complaining about :think:

Yes you are correct and we will be buying when we are 28 (Only 1 months older than my better half). So yes we are probably ahead of the game abd have worked hard so rightly so.

My point is the generation before bought a good 6 years before we will be doing and did it without putting the hard work into careers like we have had to.

LilacPixie

Percy1983 wrote: »

Nope I studied accounts... :rotfl:

Anyway I was working from 15 while studying to which I had very long weeks, so wasn't have the idle student life.

Yes I could have gone straight into better paid work at the time but if I did my income would be nowhere near what it is now.

Yes there is many definitions of working hard I will admit and many would argue I do nothing at all as I sit at a desk, but doing many hours of study while working full time to work in a sector many would class as hard work (depending on opinion).

To put another slant on it my dad worked full time and my mum part time, yet my better half and I both need to work full time to get the same chance (so approx 30% more on hours counting). Thats ignoring the work we have had to do to get ourselves higher salary's respectively.

Sorry but I think you are being selfish.. Assuming the numbers in your username is your year of birth you are a maximum of 18 months younger than I am, you have the same profession as I do, once again assuming you studied accounts and then followed through into the work place. Do I work hard?? well I think so and my employer obviously does or they would not employ me. Do I work harder than my parents did, nope, Do i work harder than someone who qualified in my/our profession 40 years ago? Nope. Would I want to work on the assembly line in a factory or soemthing else 'unskilled' for the same money? definately nope.

My dad was a baby boomer, Engineer firstly in the boat yards then as the shipyards died off to the oil industry. Oil is drying up and he took early retirment a few years ago but younger workmates of his are now diversifying to renewable energies/turbines and following the money.

I really find the ideology that you, I and others like us have had to work twice as hard as a previous generation a bit laughable TBH.