money tight ? pts your cat

puddy

a vet told me about the rich tea analogy but said it was about iams and stuff, he said that hills didnt do their teeth damage

Rev

puddy wrote: »

a vet told me about the rich tea analogy but said it was about iams and stuff, he said that hills didnt do their teeth damage

That doesn't make much sense to me either. So if we ate sugar free biscuits, it'd clean our teeth lol.

Did your vets sell hills by any chance? Vets tend to recommend the food their practice is being paid to sell. Mine recommends Royal canin for every thing.

I'm not saying dry is bad for teeth, not if you're feeding a good quality dry, but whatever dry you feed, it's not beneficial to teeth in any way.

cavework

Our dog was put on a Hills diet by the vet .Obviously we bought it from the practice and it was very expensive
We were told she was prone to Kidney stones and could not be allowed anything else.
5 years later we had to use another Vet. He was furious .. did tests and told us to put her back on a normal diet :mad:

She lived until she was 15!
My cats have dry biscuits and water avaliable all day and are fed wet food once a day in the morning.
They are not overweight and have no problem with their teeth.

Cally I really hope things work out for you

viktory

Read the other thread - massive overreaction by the OP.

A_Phoenix_of_Tangerine

Rev wrote: »

Cats and dogs clean their teeth by tearing meat from bones, creating a flossing action, eating dry food does zero for their teeth. And given the amount of sugars in the likes of go cat, wiskas, felix etc, comparing them to a rich tea isn't much of a stretch.

Also all found on google scholar

http://rawpetdiet.com/images/stories/PDF/The%20Truth%20About%20Raw%20Foods.pdf

And a few regular links

http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/29941/pets/have_you_checked_your_cats_teeth_recently.html

http://www.blakkatz.com/dryfood.html

http://www.petclubuk.com/pet-information/article/fat-cat-facts

http://www.facekitty.com/2008/11/does-dry-food-clean-cats-teeth.html


Obviously you chose to believe dry food is beneficial to teeth. That's your prerogative.

GOOD quality dry (& wet) foods shouldn't contain any sugar, and should contain a much much lower relative ratio of sugar-containing carbs : meat than the poor quality readily available stuff. Yes, bones are obviously great at cleaning teeth, but neither tinned nor dry foods contain bone, so that's slightly irrelevant as to which commercial pet food type is 'better' for an animals teeth. Something hard and and crunchy will clearly have a greater capacity to scrape against the surfaces of teeth than something sloppy that offers no resistance! A lot of it is about the texture of foods.

I note that most of the websites that you link to are written by individual people, and do not reference to any scientifically verifiable and repeated studies. Regardless, in one of your very own links:
http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/29941/pets/have_you_checked_your_cats_teeth_recently.html the author has written: Clearly diet plays a major role in the development of dental disease. Cats that eat a dry biscuit based or complete diet are less likely to get dental disease compared with cats on wet tinned food merely due to the crunchy hard food helping to stop tartar attaching to the teeth.


In another of your links,http://www.facekitty.com/2008/11/does-dry-food-clean-cats-teeth.html in which the author seems unreasonably biased against dry, despite the following:
- A couple of studies showed that *large* dry food biscuits (not kibble) actually removed tartar

A more recent review (DuPont G. Prevention of periodontal disease. Vet Clin N Amer. 1998 Sept;28(5):1129-1145) says, "In some dogs, dry kibble or fibrous diet helps slow plaque accumulation more than does soft or canned food...



And the link you provided here: http://www.petclubuk.com/pet-information/article/fat-cat-facts doesn't even make any mention of dry cat food or wet in relation to teeth!


And I'm sorry, but there's no way that these links were ever found using Google Scholar, Google Scholar is for cited peer-reviewed experimental studies within the scientific community...

Rev

I didn't say all the links were from google scholar, just the first link.

Had you read, you'd see the pet club site says

Cat’s teeth are designed to tear meat, not crunch on dry biscuits. Dry food should not be fed to benefit the cat’s teeth.

Had you also read my later post you'd see I said a quality dry wont do any harm to teeth.

And as I said, it's your prerogative to believe dry food is better for teeth, as it's mine to believe it isn't. Lets agree to disagree.