Eastern Europeans

patman99

I'm wondering if being s/e has had a bearing on the decision. One of my former workmates was refused JSA, IS, CTB and HB as he had not completed 2 years as a NI class 1 paying employee, have worked s/e for 5 years before going back into PAYE employment.

martin_ivan

Many thanks for replies. I was going to send it to my local Job centre manager but I think I overdone it a bit as it felt like there is no tomorrow. My case is complicated because of so many factors and regulations that are only applied to A8 nationals. Even Citizens Advice Bureau refused to deal with it as it is to complicated(kept saying we are not lawyers here and kept googling stuff). All they told me is to ask for review, appeal and complain at the same time to get anywhere as 3 month waiting just to be told you are not on the WRS scheme is not good enough when it can be done on your first interview with the job centre. Also the Housing benefit team sent me a letter saying that I failed to provide them with the information required(but would not tell me what is missing) after one of their assistants told me that they have every thing required to process the claim.... Anyhow back to work and hope that I will notr have to see any of it ever again.

Ps:
forgot to mention that I was told that since May 2004 I was working in UK illegally as was not registered with WRS. I have a feeling that a letter is going to come through from Inland revenue telling that my pension is being taken away from me or something..

dmg24

It is not complicated at all - have you ever registered with the WRS?

happy35

if you have been self employed then you wouldn't qualify for JSA contribution based it would be a claim to jsa income based

In cases of A8 nationals who claim JSA income based a decision needs to be made on whether you maintain your right to reside as you are no longer working

You could check that this decision has been made, but if it has and you don't agree with it you will have to make an appeal.

martin_ivan

dmg24 wrote: »

It is not complicated at all - have you ever registered with the WRS?

This might sound funny but the first time I came across it is when WRS requested it.. So no i am not registered..

dmg24

martin_ivan wrote: »

This might sound funny but the first time I came across it is when WRS requested it.. So no i am not registered..

OK, when were you self employed? Were you registered with HMRC as self employed?

martin_ivan

dmg24 wrote: »

OK, when were you self employed? Were you registered with HMRC as self employed?

Yes. All the tax returns present.

welshmoneylover

martin_ivan wrote: »

Hey all. My first post here so take it easy pls.

I am a Lithuanian male. Been her for 10 yrs, paid tax, worked as a self employed carpenter, last 3 years recruitment.

Lost my job by accident tbh november time when things started to go quiet. Applied for Housing benefit and job seekers allowance. Both came back saying NO!!!

Please tell me if the letter I've sent to them is appropriate:



To whom it may concern,

Further to your correspondence in regards to my application for Job Seekers Allowance, Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit could you please provide me with correct reasons for me not being able to receive any benefits.

Unfortunately for me your incompetent colleagues from Watford could only give me one reason: "Because you are from eastern Europe". I also have a voice mail from one of your assistant laughing at my family name. I am seeking legal advice on this matter as I feel they were very discriminative and unprofessional after being made aware of my poor financial situation especially after me being in this country for 9 years without claiming any benefit and paying my taxes.

I will be asking you to review my case as I was self employed and employed at the same time for at least last five years also my father has been working in the UK as a self employed carpenter for at least last 8 years. Therefore I was advised I am exempt from WRS(Workers registration Scheme) . To my knowledge a self employed A8 national should be treated as a EEA national and I do have proof that after being made redundant November 2010 I was still working as a self employed carpenter with minimal income due to festive season and general "climate" in construction industry getting close to Christmas. I have all my work history from 1 May 2004 provided by Inland Revenue which confirms me being employed and self employed at the same time through years and will be provided upon your request.

It is also worth mentioning that the only reason I resigned from **** ********* ***** is due to my doctor insisting on it due to my uncontrollable stress levels caused by many factors including death treats and personality change due to taking very strong medication( all of the above can be proven by my doctor( Dr. ********* *****) who is a reputable headaches specialist in London and my medical notes which will be provided upon your request), however I was keen to find work and ended up with **** **** *********** where I was made redundant after a month. Please note that all this time( time permitting ) I was trading as a self employed carpenter and tendering for projects which also can be proven as evidence of this can be provided by a number of reputable main contractors in London who I have approached with the aim of doing work for them during my employment.

I would also like to use this opportunity and make you aware that most of A8 employees and employers are not not aware of WRS (Workers Registration Scheme). The fact that one of the biggest construction agencies in the UK that I have been working for "internally" are not aware of it says it all. I also researched it within my "phone book" which is 1000+ contacts generated through my previous employment, 90% of the people liable to being on the register are not even aware of the scheme. I would like to know is why is it that you use this scheme as a major factor in deciding on who is entitled to benefits and who isn't. Most of the employees are "deep" into employment when they find out of it or in my case after being made redundant and in real need of help which I don't qualify for unless I am registered with something that doesn't want to be known of.


Once again please provide me with the correct reasons in regards to me not qualifying to any benefits.

Kind Regards,

Martynas **********

Can you not claim benefits from Lithuania?

whitewing

I don't think you will have needed to have been registered on the WRS given that you have been in the UK for 10 years (provided you were here legally).

von

As you came to the UK 10 years ago i.e. prior to 2004 you must have applied to come and live in the UK at that time and been granted some kind of leave to remain in the UK. Does your Passport show you have leave to remain in the UK? If so, what kind, limited or indefinite?