ESA and earning a little extra

paddedjohn

ive no doubt your right but i didnt tell her to leave her husband to go to work, she never said or even hinted that she would be working from home in her opening post.

Tehya

paddedjohn wrote: »

ive no doubt your right but i didnt tell her to leave her husband to go to work, she never said or even hinted that she would be working from home in her opening post.

I'm not going to argue with you but maybe if you go away and have a little think you may find some compassion for people in my situation but also try to realise that you DO NOT get the whole picture from one little question on a forum.

You're having a go at the wrong person. Both my husband and I had good jobs, I myself have worked hard since my first job at 14. But two years ago a conditon my husband had had for years turned ugly, Psoriasis and along with an extreme outbreak of that came the associated Psoriatic Arthritis (now think The Singing Detective if you've never read or seen it look it up and you may just get a tiny glance of what life is now like).

I am also in pain because I have the brittle bones I still have a problem with a fractured shoulder from over 2 years ago and to top that off nicely I also have several other illnesses, including severe Meniere's Disease, meaning my cocktail of drugs is larger than my husband's. So to have someone say that I need to work three hours a week just to give it all back (£20) to the tax payer is insulting and healrtless.

So please think before you upset somebody who isn't as strong as me.

Tehya

Right and if you read this posts sister thread (on disability and dosh) you would see quite clearly that we pay a great deal of money out for transport costs to and from hospital £16 each way x 3 or 4 times a week. I have to have my heating on constantly, medical euqipment costs more in electric to run than I I'll get in wages. Being disabled, both of us, the cost of living is so much more. Extra washing and drying, shopping deliveries this all uses extra money. We also live in the middle of nowhere so just getting to the local town cost an arm and a leg.As I have already stated to do the job will cost me money so why should I have to take a cut in benefits to do it.

A single parent is allowed to earn a certain amount before it affects their benefits as can a JSA claimant so no different to me apart from I already work at least 35 hours a week (ummm try the 168 I'm on call for) which is the minimum needed to qualify for Carer's Allowance (the only out of work benefit you have to work for).

I'll tell you what I can do. I'll dump my husband on Social Services or the NHS letting the tax payer pick up the £2000ish a week billwhile I swan off get a full time job again (which I would love to be able to do) and live happily ever after. I know one thing I'd be a lot less tired and ill myself.

Tehya

sh1305 wrote: »

Tehya is working full time - she is caring for her disabled husband. If she was to decide tomorrow that she's had enough, would you be happy paying how much is costs her husband to have carers with him when he needs then? Put it this way - I need help when I go to college. DSA will be paying £8 an hour for this help.

I assume you'll be happy working for not even £1 an hour? That is the reality for some carers. Actually, some don't even get paid for it.

Thank you for the support sh1305, I don't think anyone understands how much extra just living and breathing costs when disability enters the equation well not until it happens to them, I know I didn't. Yes I willingly gave up my right to a normal life to care for someone, becoming ill in the process myself but this is not good enough for some people for them carer's should have to live in poverty for the honour.

I'm surprised, but shouldn't be really, that some people resent me earning less than £20 a week in these circumstances. I might just be able to have a hair cut in a month or two the first one in eighteen months but no I shall send it to David Cameron instead so I can save each tax payer in the country (% of a penny?) each in the next year.

Things are getting so bad that in today's papers there is a story of a mother with a disabled daughter struggling (like most carer's) to care for her daughter. The family may need to place her in a care home because they get no help (again just like most carers) and it's all about saving the council a little money.

eskimo26

but this is not good enough for some people

Its called being self-centred and simple-minded. What they are actually saying is not 'we want you to pay money back to the tax payer' but 'we want you to disappear into a black hole so that we can have all our money for ourselves because we earn it and it should all be ours!!' *stomp* *stomp *sulk*

The reality is your saving them money through your selflessness so don't waste time replying to them, in fact just report the comment they are literally a hairs breadth from trolling given you've spelt out how much you've saved them and there still making such absurd posts...

Sixer

People - carers or not - should arrange their personal financial affairs in the most advantageous way for them, provided it's within the law. If the law says a family, rather than an employed, carer should be entitled to benefits and can keep a connection to the world of work by having a few hours of paid work discounted in benefits calculations, and they want to do it, they should do it and should not be criticised.

Two points that may give pause for thought:

Income tax is a relatively small portion of government tax receipts. At £150bn or so, it's roughly equivalent to the amount raised by purchase taxes (VAT, alcohol, tobacco, etc). We're all taxpayers, not just those of us who pay income tax. Including benefits claimants.

At PMQs this week, the multi-millionaire David Cameron made reference to his personal claim for DLA while his disabled son was still alive. Even the Forehead of Doom thinks citizens should claim what they are entitled to, whether they need it or not.

OP: I hope this job works out for you and turns out to be a positive addition to your life.

morledge142

i think what people mean is

if you can contribute however small then everyone needds to as there is just not enough cash in the pot so if you want the job for your own self worth then take it for that or if its not worth the money don;t bother.

but you are no more entitled or not to it than anyone else. it is not a judgement or a criticism that you should or should not do it.

it works for anyone on benefits or not the govenment works out how much people are expected to live on and above or below that it is taken off you if they can or given to you.

i am at the moment battling esa/dla and am not in recept of benefits but am fighting for some of that very limited pot.
we are surviing on 3/5 of hubby salary as he had to reduce his hours to care for me but we are not elibible for anything else it is as simple as that.

i don;t like it but we are expected to live on this poverty line or work an dbring in 2 wages and have a very good life thank you very much there is not much in between from where i am standing.

i know what you are saying and i sympathise wiht your arrangement as i do wiht mine - i didn;t ask to ghave a car crash last year - but its a no for me until there is enough in the pot that is why they are tightening things up.
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