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ex gratia redundancy payment, tax free??

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rolandpol
rolandpol Posts: 24 Forumite
edited 6 September 2012 at 8:15PM in Redundancy & redundancy planning
are ex gratia payments , tax free??
any one?

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  • Gordon_Hose
    Gordon_Hose Posts: 6,259 Forumite
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    If it's a redundancy package then it won't be taxable.

    If it's a payment in lieu of notice (PILON) it'll be taxable.
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,098 Forumite
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    Wasn't there some discussion on here though about if the contract does not mention the option of pilon then the company could instead offer a payment for breach of contract (breach being failure to give 3 months notice) and that this payment could form part of the redundancy settlement?
    If it's a redundancy package then it won't be taxable.

    If it's a payment in lieu of notice (PILON) it'll be taxable.
    I think....
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    Michaels is correct.

    If no mention of PILON in the original contract it is classed then as compensation. Therefore not taxable.

    I wish more employers and employees knew about this. The taxman is raking in millions per year which the shouldnt
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    rolandpol wrote: »
    Spoke to my boss and he claims that it isn't taxable on either side (employer/employee), not sure if I trust him, he may be trying to pull a fast one

    So he will happily give you an indemnity in writing that if HMRC decide different they will pay the tax and this is a NET payment of ANY tax due.
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    rolandpol wrote: »
    Got the old redundacy heave-ho last week, my MD has given me the option of an Ex Gratia payment for the 3 months of wages i'm contracted to receive (around £6,000).

    What do you mean by this? A payment can only be either contractual or ex-gratia. If you are contractually entitled to receive this payment, then it is taxable. Can you give us the actual contractual wording which entitles you to receive this payment?
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • zzzlazydaisy I have authorised many payments in my past life free of tax because the contract was silent on pilon. There has never been any comeback.
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    jazzyman01 wrote: »
    zzzlazydaisy I have authorised many payments in my past life free of tax because the contract was silent on pilon. There has never been any comeback.

    I am not disputing that. If there is no contractual right to a payment on termination (whether express or implied) then the payment is not subject to tax.

    What I was querying was OP's statement that he is 'contracted to receive' the payment. If the payment is indeed a contractual entitlement, then it will be taxable. But OP hasn't been back to clarify the issue.
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
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