Do I have a chance?

big_alto

Hey everybody, this is my first time posting on the site and I appreciate your time in reading my post.

A few months ago double yellow lines were put outside my house. One day I stopped at home to grab lunch and within ten minutes I recieved a parking ticket. The attendant told me she had waited five minutes which is the legislative time.

My car was parked at Greenwood Avenue, and on the ticket the attendant has Greenwood Drive on it. I appealed to the Road Service twice on the grounds the Contravention did not occur due to the wrong address. These appeals were rejected.

I have obtained a map the road service uses and interestingly enough the place where I am parked has no name on it, obviously this is why the wrong place name is on it.

A few days later my sister who doesn't live at this address parked in the same place and a male traffic warden came along and she explained to him that she has just called to the house and he didn't give her a ticket let alone ask her to move.

I am pretty frustrated. The lines came into effect on the 7th September 2010 and I recieved the PCN on the 4th October 2010. I sent an e-mail to the road service after on the 14th October 2010 and in the last few weeks I recieved word back from them that they are happy to remove these lines if I have support from enough residents. I gathered there names in support and I will be sending of the letter to them this week.

It is really annoying getting a ticket at your home for an offence that will no longer be an offence in a few weeks/months. If anybody knows of anyway I can win the independent appeal or any loophole/precedents that are in place that can help me feel free. :money:

I am sorry for boring you with this story, oh sorry I must say this incident occured in Northern Ireland so the law in question is The Traffic Management (Northern Ireland) Order 2005.

Thanks very much for your time, please go gentle on me and be well.

Alto

peter_the_piper

1st thing to do is to repeat this post on pepipoo.com.
2nd is there a Greenwood drive and is it anywhere near?
3rd to be going on with is to get copies of both sides of the paperwork/letters rec'd and remove the personal markings. Host on tinypic and copy the url for forums. Paste it into a post on both sites and on here remove the http:// bit.

esmerobbo

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As P T P says, Strange they say get some signatures and we will remove them. Would have been easier and cheaper for them to ask the residents first surely?

Coupon-mad

Here's the link to the pepipoo board you need to post on:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

You will need to show them pictures of the front and back of your ticket and any other paperwork (read their FAQs and sticky threads first and then register). The fact the Council have named the wrong road should mean you can win the argument, most adjudications find in favour of the motorist but not sure what the stats are in NI.

Good luck, don't hang about, let pepipoo posters see your documents, all pages, all small print (remove ID details and remove PCN number, that's all).

big_alto

Thanks for the great help guys, I really appreciate it. I have done some researching and I discovered apparently the road service did ask residents in a letter if wanted to object to it, not if they wanted them anyway mind you.

On the letter it shows where the double yellow lines are suppose to be. However they show a space four or five yards behind where my car was parked that doesn't have any double yellow lines. If the road service had of put these lines out correctly like they stated in this letter I could of parked my car five yards back and never have been caught in this situation.

Do you believe that is a valid point? Thanks so much guys. :rotfl:

Coupon-mad

Yes, that seems to me at least a very valid point but it will be the Traffic Order that properly defines where the lines should be (not a letter, although that letter helps you as a general appeal point).

You can email to ask for the Traffic Order for that stretch of road, if you do so make sure you DO NOT mention the PCN at all, it doesn't want to be misunderstood as an appeal to a PCN. You can just ask because you are an interested person, for any public document, and a Traffic Order is just that.

Post on pepipoo and they will help you, we are limited in our knowledge and I only go by other cases I have read about on there.