National Insurance number different on wage slip.

Two4Tuesday

bengalknights wrote: »

I always thought the last letter was related to which one of the member of family you was and age ie

my sisters are A-D and me being youngest being E

NI Numbers always end in A,B, C, or D. If your NI number ends in 'E' then something is very wrong.

There is only one exception I am aware of. In the jobcentre, we sometimes used temporary NI Numbers in the format:

TN followed by the Date of Birth followed by M or F.

themull1

If its just the end letter and the rest of the NI number is correct, its fine, nothing will go to any one elses account, NI numbers end in A B C or D. These end letters were used in the 'olden days' when contributions (class 1 2 or 3) were noted on cards rather than done electronically. There were too many people to have the cards done all at the same time, so it was changed to 4 times a year depending on the end letter you were allocated. The end letter isn't used anymore.

themull1

Its not the month you were born in.!!

bengalknights

Two4Tuesday wrote: »

NI Numbers always end in A,B, C, or D. If your NI number ends in 'E' then something is very wrong.

There is only one exception I am aware of. In the jobcentre, we sometimes used temporary NI Numbers in the format:

TN followed by the Date of Birth followed by M or F.

Your right its a D so i presume one of my sisters have something different lol

real1314

skint-student-nurse wrote: »

My mum,sisters and i all have the same national insurance number and the difference is the letter at the end,my mum is A and my sisters are B+C and i am D. Its deffo worth a call to inland revenue to see whats going on with your contributions though as god forbid you should ever need it but the job centre can be right pains over lack of contributions,etc,even if you know you have paid the minimum amount.

This is so wrong it's untrue.

I'll give £10 to charity if you and your mum and all your sisters have the same AA NN NN NN sequence with the final "A" (as in the final letter) being different. Given that there are apparently 5 of you, that would be £50 for you lot.


The reality:-

The initial 2 letters are generally rotated for years, then the following 6 numbers are used. There are some exceptions (HM was a Norn thing afaik, PW was a late (much post age 16) allocation).

The final letter designated when Your (YOUR) tax year ended in the old scheme (4 Tax year ends, 31 March, 30 June, 30 Sept, 31 Dec), and has been preserved so that options are available in case the need arises to have any other system than 1 (5/04/xx) system.

Just look at your school peers / age peers numbers - they'll be the same initial letter, depending on how close your age is (16th bithday); the numbers will be random (as they will be allocated in order of birth, so will appear random-ish); the final letter will be randon too - not sure if there was a method/approach, but it's just an extra that does not distinguish between individuals in any way. :cool:

GlasweJen

Well my family must be an anomaly. My older sisters national insurance number is identical to mine bar the first letter, don't know older brothers number. Me, younger brother and younger sister all have the same first 2 letters, first 5 numbers are the same and the 6th numbers all run in sequence for us all, we all end in A.

Sharon87

My number is very similar to my brother and sister's NI number. There's 3/4 years age difference, the last number and last letter are different and that's it.

stazi

real1314 is correct.
NINO's are now automatically allocated by HMRC when Child Benefit (CB) is claimed, so people of a similar age will normally have the same first 2 letters.
New entrants to the UK have to apply for a NINO.

In the late 80's/all 90's, DSS who dealt with NINO then, started to allocate NINO's from the existing CB records at that time. In this way NINO's were allocated as follows from CB accounts-
Child 1- AB123456A
Child 2- AB123457B
Child 3- AB123458C
Child 4- AB123459D and so on.
In this way some siblings will have similar NINO's when the NINO's were allocated from CB records, even though there is an age difference.

Also depending where you live outside the mainland, can dictate your NINO, for example-
Jersey=JY; Guernsey=GY; Belfast=BT; IoM=MN.

As real1314 says, A,B,C and D at the end of a NINO were used pre 1975 when everyone had a NI stamp card that had to be exchanged annually, and the last letter decided when. The last letter is still used to make up a NINO, but is not relevant now - the NINO are the 2 letters & 6 numbers- in the correct order!

Peanuckle

Easiest way to prove this is I've just checked my twins NI numbers, they're 17 and their numbers are identical apart from the last number and letter, funnily enough the oldest is the one with the later letter and number (but her name is last alphabetically so this is probably how they add them to the system)
Their older brother (one year older) has a completely different NI apart from the first letter if that helps

System

GlasweJen wrote: »

Well my family must be an anomaly. My older sisters national insurance number is identical to mine bar the first letter, don't know older brothers number. Me, younger brother and younger sister all have the same first 2 letters, first 5 numbers are the same and the 6th numbers all run in sequence for us all, we all end in A.

So basically your numbers are similar, with only one number different, like my daughters, but not identical which skint-student-nurse was saying was the case in her family.

Stazi is correct in saying that nino's are now allocated when Child Benefit is claimed. I have had experience of a young person coming in with their parent complaining that they did not receive a NINO like their friends at the age of 16 and the reason was because the parents never claimed child benefit at all for any of their kids.