Parking Tickets- what you should know about these 'companies'

redsprinterman

There's a lot of useful information on how to avoid the tickets or paying for the tickets but what a lot of people don't know is you don't have to do 'business' with these people. If you don't have a 'contract' with them then they can't demand a penny from you. See fmotl.com, put a www before it.

(Tickets are just scratching the surface as well, we've all been conned for too long in every aspect of our lives)

Dave

peter_the_piper

It may well be useful but far too wordy and difficult to weed out the parking bits. Generally all you need to know about ppc's is summed up in one word.

Ignore.

robredz

The FMOL method is complicated by the fact that you have to contact the ppc in order to deny any existence of a contract. the terms are to woolly to be enforceable, so best just to ignore.
If you want to try FMOL, why not stamp the invoice "ACCEPTED FOR VALUE" in red send it back and chance your arm.

best ignore them .

peter_the_piper

I don't think this site will be of much use, I think it is allied with the arch Dragon/Alien hunter. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104197

I think these are the bacofoil helmet brigade.

robredz

peter_the_piper wrote: »

I don't think this site will be of much use, I think it is allied with the arch Dragon/Alien hunter. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104197

I think these are the bacofoil helmet brigade.

They are part of that, but they also are connected with UK Column, and others like Guy Euden who deny the ability of Statute and Maritime Law, to overrule Common law, Magna Carta Bill Of Rights etc. They argue that you are free as long as you do not agree to contract with authorities or acknowledge they have power over you.

peter_the_piper

Trying to use this defence in court would have the judges laughing all the way to jail, you that is, not them. I did no know we had a current Bill of Rights anyway.

robredz

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Trying to use this defence in court would have the judges laughing all the way to jail, you that is, not them. I did no know we had a current Bill of Rights anyway.

We do it is
The Bill Of Rights 1689

And is part of our unwritten Constitution, along with Magna Carta, and the Habeus Corpus Act 1679 as it confers various rights to Crown Subjects
This is what they are trying to replace with an unaccountable EU centric written constitution, which codifies what is legal, rather than our unwritten constitution that permits what has not been forbidden, so technically we should be more free than with a written constitution. If anyone wants to delve they could try Googling "Dicey"

Either way there is nothing in there that permits ppcs to threaten and cajole people to pay their unsolicited invoices.

rev_henry

I've just stumbled across all this FMOTL stuff and was wondering when someone would bring it up here. If you go on youtube you will find vids of people driving round in 'de registered personal conveyances' and even a few videos of county court proceedings for council tax. :eek:

robredz

rev_henry wrote: »

I've just stumbled across all this FMOTL stuff and was wondering when someone would bring it up here. If you go on youtube you will find vids of people driving round in 'de registered personal conveyances' and even a few videos of county court proceedings for council tax. :eek:

They seem to be gaining followers internationally especiallly Canada, where some of them have concocted their own 2Driving Permits"

generally they aver that the "Common law" is superior to "Statute" and it's maritime connotations. implicit to this is the idea of FIAT currency, and the UK trading in bankruptcy, the money for a credit agreement being created by your signature, and the use of "Accepted for Value" to satisfy a tax demand.

Who knows they could even be right, stranger things have happenned.