Competitions Discussion Thread Part 13

beffffff

korkythekat wrote: »

thank you, the comps for them particular mags have always been posted on one thread, the ops pay/subscribe to the mags to share for us all & keep the issues flowing each month & have had loads of pm's from ops who post the comps on them threads worrying that they'll have to be posted separate, makes a lot more sense to keep them as they are,
thanks for clarifying this :A

I like ongoing comps and think these should be used as an example of the fact that so do a lot of other people

BUT don't see any reason for these to be treated differently. People either can use ongoing comps or they can't.

So if the majority of people really don't think ongoing threads are usable and find it hard to keep track of where they are up to then these must be even worse than a monthly comp that is updated once a month or a weekly comp that is updated once a week. for them???

I fully understand the issue that people pay for these mags, so if any decision is that we no longer have any ongoing competition posts then it would have to be written into the rules that specific comps like these are posted by particlar people, with a list, due to the fact they very generously give not just time but also money for all of us.

PS I really hope that doesn't happen, I think comps should be ongoing when possible to keep the board tidy and don't know what the issue is with ongoing comps. But obviously there is one with some people. So hopefully we'll all come to a decision that means all ongoing comps can stay.

grannybiker

:A Andrea, your PM to me was fine too. Succint & friendly. So glad your loved ones are safe. Was transfixed by the horror of yesterday that sadly continues... I often say that "Worse things will have happened in the world today" to myself & others when things are sent to try us... Thoughts are with anyone affected, directly or otherwise XXX
Anyhow, to the point in hand....
I'd not posted here this time as
a) I've said it all before!
b) it seemed to be confused with so many different ideas, but then c) reliant on Andrea's decision. My PM stated...
(Will keep it short as guess you've had a few PMs!)
While I'm delighted that more comps can be on the main boards...
1) Please can we keep the stickies (For end date users & those who get "Behind".)
2) Please can we keep onging threads that can be updated with new answers / codes each day / week. This will make the stickies manageable. there are numerous examples of this working efficiently. Happy for monthlies to be separate each month.
Thanks for reading.
GBX

I hadn't entered the FB / Twitter / Blog debate and I'm happy to label any I find & post. My only point that I can think of is that some aren't vital, some rely on more than 1, e.g. The Greedy Gourmet. Could be some confusion if same comp needed to be on 4 different (Sub) boards. Would they all be linked to each other to avoid duping?
The other point has already been raised . If folk get it wrong, (Not everyone reads every long and often contradictory posts in here and many find it hard to follow exactly what's supposed to be happening, so can get it wrong even if they're trying hard to follow the rules . ) they shouldn't be made to feel "Got at." Sadly all too easy in a forum when it's hard to tell the tone, even if the poster wasn't being grumpy ! (Wondering why I can't seem to remove the italice option.. ? :rotfl:!)
Hope everyone has a great weekend :beer:
GBX

beffffff

Oh and I'd be OK with a board for twitter comps. It would probably help me.

But do you mean one that works like the regular stickies? Or one like the postals? I think these comps move so fast ot should be one like postals.

Sorry if that's already been said and I've missed it

And agree with thingamaBob about the Cosy Corner. It's a good idea but how do we make people aware of it? If people don't know where regulars is and it's "hidden" away over there it may not get much use?

fire**fly

Mamzie wrote: »

Korky, that makes complete sense to me too. Is it only the puzzler/tab that are on one thread please? As I'll add that to the possible guidelines above.

Am I right in thinking that all the mags have reg posters, as someone is paying buy them. Plus the ITV comps are normally posted by comping cat?

hiya, yes, as far as i know the puzzler comps are on one thread &
the Take a Break monthly ones are on one thread each,

there are lists on the first pages of who subscribes/buys the mags, if someone has ended their sub/or/can't post for a reason generally it's posted on the thread to ask for someone to help/take over etc,

hth xx

mintymoneysaver

[/QUOTE]The main things that are jumping out at me are

1) Do we to continue to post ongoing comps with no end date in the Regs board ?

2) What do people think of the options for Monthly comps that are regular? (see point 4 in guidelines)

3) Should we expand the Stickys on the Reg board, so that we could get one for FB, Twitter in there?

4) Would people like to be able to post misc chat and question threads in there as well? We could change it into a Compers Cosy Corner - a place for all chat, questions, ongoing comps and helpful Sticky threads to live, instead of or as well as the huge Comps Discussion thread and the Compers Inn? We have some of the most helpful and caring people on MSE on our comps board, and yet we have no place where we can communicate as compers except for 2 long threads.

Why do I want to keep the extra sub forum at all??? Because I feel it may be easier to add/share information on there, esp with all the new twitter, Fb, etc comps that are popping up, than continually bumping threads on main. We could just have general and varied comps gossip threads in. We could then ask questions and hold any chit chat when theres a good comp running on various threads in there, debates, help how do I do type threads, etc....

???? What have I missed? Any other title tags???[/QUOTE]1) Yes
2) On main board posted singly please.
3) Personally I would still like to see them on main board with a FB or similar in the title ( people could maybe just add a polte ' could you put fb in your title' if they notice them as they do with end date) If I'm in the minority that's no problem.
4) I thought that's what this thread and Compers Inn were for, before we got bogged down in all of this...

toniq

As all 4 boardguides comps, can they not decide which way to go, otherwise it's going to turn into mayhem again, I know Glad tried before, but now it is known what people want it would be easier for the bg's to guide us with what they as compers see workable and a compromise for alot of the ideas put forward, otherwise this will keep on going around in circes again and again xxxx

I don't often notice the puzzler threads as my forum view is 90% of the time on thread start time, but I have no issue with that, if i miss some that's down to me, I'm more than able to make a note to go and search it out.

Really glad ur loved ones are ok Mse Andrea xxx

furndire

Shellybee wrote: »

I can't believe I didn't see that, I was fiddling with the ascending descending boxes at the bottom :rotfl:Thanks Bob :beer:

I think that there are still a lot of compers who do not know about the New Topic View. Too busy trying to catch up.

The problem is trying to get people to just give it a go for 10 mins. People are very reluctant to change habits. I know - I was, but once I tried it, I never went back.

As regards trying to keep up.
Start from say the begining of today at a set point on New Topic View and keep up with those from there.
I have my Competitions New Topic View as my opening Home Page (sad hey can't you tell I'm addicted)

Then go to the End Date View - find tomorrows date, and do as many of them as you can - there are so
many you'll be lucky to do them all in a day - if you do, and you have time, do some of the next day as well and take a

note of page where you end.


The Green ticks that show up when you press the enter button show you where you roughly ended.
The trick is to keep up when you start a new session is to do the full New Topic view from where you left off
everytime. This is the important bit, as all those you do will get slotted into place in the End Date View, so after a couple of weeks it takes less and less time to do the End Date View ones - you've already done them (because the ones you did from the New Topic View have already been done).
By the end of a month, you will only need to look at the New Topic View and hey presto, you are up to date.


If this method is followed, we don't need a lot of the monthly, weekly threads, as they can all just be pasted as normal comps, as they will be picked up in the New Topic View.


This is the method I used when I had a few months off from comping, so I know it works. I will be going travelling shortly for a couple of months, and so will not be comping then, but I will catch up again very quickly when I get back using the above method.


As for the Monthly and Weekly threads, I now have them in Excel. I found in FF, I can just drag & drop the URL from the MSE page (if I need answers), & the URL from the comp page, and they will open from excel. I just then need to go through that list rather than trying to follow them on here. This way, providing the monthly & weekly comps have appeared in The New Topic View first, and not been put straight in their prospective monthly & weekly threads, they are easily picked up.


People have got it so easy on here comping and the easier you make it, and more intricate you make it the more people demand - if we miss a few, who cares, if it was for the people who give up there time on here to post I for one wouldn't have won anything.


So for the people who are set in their ways change is good (well sometimes it is) be a bit open minded, and spend 10 mins trying something new. That 10 mins could save you hours in the long run.


Now I am going to run and hide in the comps in the New Topic View, to see what I want to do out of todays contributions & hope I haven't upset too many people.


My thanks and praise goes out to all people who post, board guides, and anyone else who puts effort into this forum.:T:T:T:beer:

Amilucky?

Al_Mac wrote: »

Why should FB and Twitter have threads or there own place. They are just comps, like all the other comps. They are from individual companies, have individual prizes and have individual end dates. Yes the odd one is run regularly, but always have different questions and answers.

Not understanding isn't a good reason for shifting them off into a corner.

I agree Al further categorisation of comps is not needed all that needs to happen to the Facebook and Twitter comps and other comps that necessitate a tag is to ensure that they are tagged correctly in the title

however this would need to be written into the comping guide and enforced by ourselves and the BG's for it to work properly

all Twitter and Facebook comps would all be on the main board but they would able to be grouped together via search

I know that this will be highly controversial but I'm going to suggest it anyway

as there are now not many comps on the Regulars board maybe they could all be moved on to the Main board with the regular ongoing comps given a guessed end date or end of year date and tagged appropriately

this would then free up the regulars board for all of the stickies which are on the main board now

the daily,weekly, and monthly stickies could then be transferred to the main board

this would then improve the layout on the main board as there would be only three stickies there

the old regulars board (which would have to have a new name) could then have as many comp related stickies as you wanted

maybe new chat sections etc etc much like how Loquax's forums are set out here
http://forums.loquax.co.uk/

just a thought

Update: I have just noticed that some of the above has already been suggested by previous posters I have not gone back too much into this thread so I don't really know what has already been discussed

I don't really want to get involved too much at this present time so I will leave you to discuss between yourselves

Best of Luck

Mamzie

Finally back home for a few hours before housewarming... just going to try and catch up a little.

Al_Mac wrote: »

Why should FB and Twitter have threads or there own place. They are just comps, like all the other comps. They are from individual companies, have individual prizes and have individual end dates. Yes the odd one is run regularly, but always have different questions and answers.

Not understanding isn't a good reason for shifting them off into a corner.

beffffff wrote: »

Oh and I'd be OK with a board for twitter comps. It would probably help me.

But do you mean one that works like the regular stickies? Or one like the postals? I think these comps move so fast ot should be one like postals.

Sorry if that's already been said and I've missed it

And agree with thingamaBob about the Cosy Corner. It's a good idea but how do we make people aware of it? If people don't know where regulars is and it's "hidden" away over there it may not get much use?

Hiya, I wasn't sugesting that the FB/Twitter comps actually move from Main to have their own place - Just that previously we couldn't have any more stickies anywhere. So a sticky or even just a thread each for these in Regs/Compers Corner, could link to their actual comps threads in main. Just like the reg threads do atm. Of course that would depend if there was a willing [STRIKE]victim[/STRIKE] volunteer to help collate the list.

I know I am finding the extra info that PCL is very kindly adding to the bottom of the dailys thread very useful - theres links to fb, purchase required comps, twitter comps, Enter on one day of the week only comps....

Plus, possibly there could be a thread for the fb/twitter comps that last literally just for a few hours - and often get very few entries. Very few people would come across these if they were posted in main, unless they happened to be comping by new posts, and at exactly the right time. It could be more similair to the postal text thread - ideally it would be better on main, but I am unsure if anyone would like another sticky on here.

Mamzie

beffffff wrote: »

Well before we totally dismiss ongoing regulars living on regulars and anything with an end date going on main can we run a poll.

..................(sorry my edit to make it shorter).............

So to summarise
I'm suggesting [STRIKE]3[/STRIKE] 5 polls
1) Where should ongoing regulars get posted
2) What is a regular
3) How do we post [STRIKE]regulars[/STRIKE] dailies
4) How do we post weeklies
5) How do we post monthlies

I know that may be a lot but then everything really is based on majority opinion rather than guessed opinion

I think they should be fully thought through (maybe put the Q's on here for proof reading before they go live) and run for at least a week.

And then I think results should be embedded in any rules so we can just refer people back to them if/when they query,

I think that the previous polls, made it very clear that if there was an end date, then people wanted the comp on the main board.

I think that its a really good idea to run a few extra polls to ensure that people are clear on the way that the board would run in future. No offence, but I don't think we really need to get bogged down in the define a reg debate again, as that was more to help decide which actual boards comps were posted on, and now we all know that they are posted mostly on main, unless there is no end date.

I can understand asking for polls re the ongoing comps, and how to post monthlys - but I thought people were pretty much settled on how to post dailys and weeklys, already.

beffffff wrote: »

Oh and I'd be OK with a board for twitter comps. It would probably help me.

But do you mean one that works like the regular stickies? Or one like the postals? I think these comps move so fast ot should be one like postals.

Sorry if that's already been said and I've missed it

And agree with thingamaBob about the Cosy Corner. It's a good idea but how do we make people aware of it? If people don't know where regulars is and it's "hidden" away over there it may not get much use?

What has always amazed me is that plenty of people find their way to IWIW - My honest opinion is that the threads were locked for so long, and the way we actively discourage chatting on threads, actually discouraged people from using Regs. IWIW, proves that a sub forum will work if its interesting enough to encourage compers to visit, and hopefully, if we can have different threads in Compers Corner/Ongoing Comps board then people would start to use it much more.

I would also be very inclined that before any guidelines were posted as law - that they were proofed by the BGs, and posted at the start of a thread, in case we had all missed something that was glaringly obvious to someone, and to encourage all of us compers to take ownership of them.