A Gypsies warning to all those landlords that enter rentals without permission

mbga9pgf

Its unacceptable, and looks like you are all going to get villified. Rightly so. There is no excuse for this sort of behaviour. Period.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8232412/Joanna-Yeates-murder-suspect-Christopher-Jefferies-let-himself-into-tenants-flat.html

clutton_2

he's not even been charged yet.....

CloudCuckooLand

But his guilt is already confirmed;

"Mr Jefferies, a prominent Liberal Democrat supporter,"

PasturesNew

He was a bad landlord. He was odd.

But those are 10-a-penny.

Did he do the murder is a separate issue..... I think circumstantial evidence is high, but then we don't know all the bits and pieces and details the police do. I do think she left the flat (bins out?) and locked herself out accidentally, so then would have needed to approach somebody to get back in (landlord on the premises being high on the list).

mbga9pgf

PasturesNew wrote: »

He was a bad landlord. He was odd.

But those are 10-a-penny.

Did he do the murder is a separate issue..... I think circumstantial evidence is high, but then we don't know all the bits and pieces and details the police do. I do think she left the flat (bins out?) and locked herself out accidentally, so then would have needed to approach somebody to get back in (landlord on the premises being high on the list).

Did I say he was guilty? A man is innocent until proved otherwise. Which makes the front page speads of the Sun and the Daily Mail rather detestible. If he gets released by the police, how difficult will it become for him in his local area?

Anyways, that is not my point. My point is, the press are villifying him for choosing to go into peoples rented homes unannounced, which imo, is quite frankly unacceptable. If I were a tennant in a similar position, I would call the police.

BitterAndTwisted

I suspect that this interferer became a landlord because it served his purposes rather than him just being a landlord per se. If he is a sinister interferer he's most probably been at it for some time and started life as a peeping tom as a lot of them do. The stuff that the police have taken away are probably some of his "trophies" from his adventures.

Or, he could be completely innocent and only entered his tenants' properties from a misguided sense of neighbourliness and concern for their well-being.

tbs624

PasturesNew wrote: »

He was a bad landlord. He was odd.

Woah PN. Do you know him, personally ? This may well turn out to be true but so far it's all hearsay and the start of the usual pre-trial by media and endless speculation

It was kind of predictable that someone would post on the Board about this case but, as Clutton says, he still has yet to be charged, however weird any of us may consider him/his possible actions to be

PasturesNew wrote: »

... we don't know all the bits and pieces and details the police do....

Exactly. No doubt the thread will ramble on at length about potential killer LLs..........

mbga9pgf

Or, he could be completely innocent and only entered his tenants' properties from a misguided sense of neighbourliness and concern for their well-being.

I have found that its usually because "they need to check the place is being kept tidy". Typical daily mail hate "dirty" young people stuff, typified by purple (or blue in this case) rinse old crones that cant keep their noses out of other peoples business. A rental is are rental. Landlords are invited into the TENANTS home and shouldnt just invite themselves.

tbs624

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Did I say he was guilty? A man is innocent until proved otherwise. Which makes the front page speads of the Sun and the Daily Mail rather detestible. If he gets released by the police, how difficult will it become for him in his local area?

Anyways, that is not my point. My point is, the press are villifying him for choosing to go into peoples rented homes unannounced, which imo, is quite frankly unacceptable. .

What do you view as "frankly unacceptable" - the press villification or the unannounced arrival of this LL into Ts homes, as described by some former Ts? Or both?

LLs should of course not simply let themselves into a Ts home. Any T who experiences this should change the lock barrel and keep the original to replace when the tenancy ends; advice should also be sought from the local TRO, from Shelter/CAB/law centre so as to pre- empt the likelihood of such LL behaviour recurring.

mbga9pgf

Both to be honest. His actions as a landlord are what I pointed out are unacceptable.

Villification in the press of being "eccentric", "gay" etc are completely unacceptable and reactionary. My point is, this case could potentially lead to serious villification of landlords that enter rental properties without permission and rightly so.

G_M

Oh for goodness sake! What is this thread about?! A lot of hearsay in the press (we know how reliable that is!) based on supposed comments by tenants who may/may not have an axe to grind.

This is all rubbish and pure speculation. We don't know the facts, either in regard to the murder, OR his behavior as a landlord. Speculation is pointless, and leads to the sort of actions we saw when paediatricians were mobbed by uninformed illiterates during the paedophilia cases.