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LLB, Graduate Diploma in Law: Advice pls??

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  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Kaybenson wrote: »
    Thanks All.

    1) I do understand the importance of good grades in virtually ALL careers. I have NEVER raised any worries about this.

    2) My question goes beyond practicing in England(where it does NOT matter the mode at which the course was done).

    Some countries dont accept graduates of Open University while university of london external hardly have any chance.

    And which countries allow people who lie about their qualifications to practise law?
  • Planning to deliberately misrepresent a qualification which is not recognised in a particular country in order to secure a job opportunity?

    And you want to study law?

    I'm afraid that your career will be over before it's even begun. You do realise that if you pull this off and are caught, (they do check your qualifications) you could end up losing your right to practice in any country?
  • Bamber19
    Bamber19 Posts: 2,264 Forumite
    Why not start communicating in fact rather than riddles, what country do you want to practice in, what country do you intend to obtain your degree in, where do you intend to do the graduate diploma. I can only speak for one country but I'd imagine dependant on the country you wish to practice in that you'll have more hurdles to jump through than the above. Why not pursue the qualifications in the country you wish to practice in. If I had wanted to practice in England for example I wouldn't have wased my time at a Scottish University and then have to undertake a conversion course, I'd have went straight to uni in England.
    Bought, not Brought
  • Planning to deliberately misrepresent a qualification which is not recognised in a particular country in order to secure a job opportunity?

    And you want to study law?

    I'm afraid that your career will be over before it's even begun. You do realise that if you pull this off and are caught, (they do check your qualifications) you could end up losing your right to practice in any country?

    This is unbelievable!

    I believe you dont 'really' understand me.

    1) At the moment, i am UK based but may move later.
    2) Due to work and other commitments, i can only pursue the course by distance learning.
    3) I am very much worried about 'few countries' where applicants who does law(by distance learning) cannot gain admission to their law schools to be trained as a solicitors or barristers.


    Somebody had earlier recommended Nottingham Trent university and i will check them out.
  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
    Are you planning to move before you qualify? I suspect that if you have done your pupillage or training contract and are fully qualified as a solicitor or barrister, that it will be easy to be recognised in another country irrespective of the nature of your degree.

    If however you are planning on completing your training abroad, then it is surely likely that you will need to provide more than just your graduation certificate, and therefore it will easily be discovered that your degree does not meet that country's qualification standards? What you seem to be proposing is that of you end up moving to a country with these restrictions, that you will fraudulently claim to have gained your degree by different means and rely on the fact that your graduation certificate will not show otherwise. That will be a hostage to fortune throughout your career, and if the truth is discovered would almost certainly lead to you being disbarred.

    It seems to me your only real options are either to find a course local to you which you can do on a part time basis and fit round your existing work commitments which will give you maximum flexibility, or to do the distance course but to resign yourself not to moving abroad to a country which will not accept that qualification, at least until you have fully qualified as a lawyer in this country.

    Out of interest though, have you done any research into how easy it will be to get a pupillage or training contract with a distance learning qualification in this country? As a former lawyer myself, both are highly sought after and are hard to come by even with degrees from highly respected universities. In the current climate both are a lot fewer on the ground and competition is a lot tougher. In ten years of practise I never once came across a single lawyer who had an OU or similar degree, for this very reason, and whilst it's almost certainly not totally impossible to qualify with this sort of degree, it's definitely a far harder way of going about things due to the prejudices of recruiter at both the bar and in private practise.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Kaybenson wrote: »
    This is unbelievable!

    I believe you dont 'really' understand me.

    1) At the moment, i am UK based but may move later.
    2) Due to work and other commitments, i can only pursue the course by distance learning.
    3) I am very much worried about 'few countries' where applicants who does law(by distance learning) cannot gain admission to their law schools to be trained as a solicitors or barristers.

    That's all very well but your insistence on whether the mode of study is overtly stateds show that you really haven't grasped the issues involved, which in your situation is worrying.

    The fact of the matter is that, if you can only study by distance learning, you will be unable to practise law in any country that disallows this regardless of what is written on the certificate.
  • you can search for this question on google i also did the same and got results if you can not found help from google then let me know ok.

    Kaybenson wrote: »
    Must the universities/colleges of law inscribe on the certificate that graduands qualified by virtue of distance learning.

    SRA and the bar council dont have problem with the manner in which law graduates qualify(part-time, full time or distance learning). A number of countries law society take note of such stuffs, in fact they dont allow distance learning students to take up law profession.

    My question is: Is there any college/universities who does distance learning courses(lAW) but WILL NOT inscribe via distance learning/external there?

    Many thanks.
  • Kaybenson wrote: »
    Must the universities/colleges of law inscribe on the certificate that graduands qualified by virtue of distance learning.

    SRA and the bar council dont have problem with the manner in which law graduates qualify(part-time, full time or distance learning). A number of countries law society take note of such stuffs, in fact they dont allow distance learning students to take up law profession.

    My question is: Is there any college/universities who does distance learning courses(lAW) but WILL NOT inscribe via distance learning/external there?

    Many thanks.

    Research a list of countries that do not recognise law degrees by distance learning. Consider whether you will ever want to live in those countries.

    If you do, do not do a degree by distance learning. If you do not, do a degree by distance learning.

    Trying to gain entry to a country's Roll by passing off a distance learning degree as a full-time degree is fraud and likely to get you struck off.
    I am an employment solicitor. However, my views should not be taken to be legal advice. It's difficult to give correct opinion based on the information given by posters.
  • Trying to gain entry to a country's Roll by passing off a distance learning degree as a full-time degree is fraud and likely to get you struck off.

    Many thanks for this 'HARD' truth.

    @ Nicki & Oldernotwiser

    I appreciate ya comments. Very very useful.

    No wonder the number of thanked posts in your posts.

    Cheers
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