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are industrial disputes ever legit?

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  • StevieJ wrote: »
    You mean the govt that was hell bent on closing mines and putting his union members out of work :eek:
    you mean: 'margaret thatcher's gov. viewed the NUM (a powerful union at the time) as a threat to its agenda and embarked apon a course of action which ensured a weakening of TU influence on the future of the UK economy'. (my words).

    good thing? bad thing? as a trade unionist I look back on scargill and his ilk as damaging and divisive figures in labour relations.. but..er... I've just broken the spirit of this thread!

    I'll shut up now.
  • Backbiter wrote: »
    Revenge for 1974?
    the conspiracy theorists had something of a field day on this one; almost as soon as the pit closure programme was complete cecil parkinson (who was energy sec.) came seriously close to admitting that this was the case (denied immediately afterwards).
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    If closing the pits was all political, why did labour not reinstate them all when they came to power?
  • ILW wrote: »
    If closing the pits was all political, why did labour not reinstate them all when they came to power?
    a better question would be: 'why didn't labour reverse most of the policies of an 18yr conservative administration?'.

    it would take an exceptionally honest labour politico to answer that one.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Could it be that the Tory policies are the only practical ones that work in the long term?
  • toby3000
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    ILW wrote: »
    Could it be that the Tory policies are the only practical ones that work in the long term?

    Not really in the case of the mines. It's something of a false economy to import coal on the basis that it's cheaper if the government then has to spend huge sums of money for the next 30plus years on benefit payments and attempts to rebuild the economy of mining areas.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    I believe we are importing very little coal now as it is considered too dirty to actually use.
  • CLAPTON
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    The mines were closed down by north sea gas initially and then the CO2 reductions targets
  • StevieJ
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    ILW wrote: »
    If closing the pits was all political, why did labour not reinstate them all when they came to power?

    Correction NEW Labour, nothing but Tories in drag:) anyway a lot more expensive to reopen closed mines as we will no doubt find out in the future.
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  • vivatifosi
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    I think strikes are a legitimate option in the worker's toolkit. However there are very few strikes that I've heard of that I have supported because in most cases I feel the dispute could have been settled. I prefer the notion of meeting in the middle where possible.
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