Dla

dazzadub

dwp asked doc for report, he did one but kept very minimal, dwp asked consultant for report he refused.

now they are sending atos out to my home to do a report for dwp. what do i need to think about and is this allowed

AsknAnswer2

Yes, it's allowed. They need to have a medical report to determine entitlement and as your Dr/consultant haven't been very helpful, they are left with little option but to have you assessed by their own medical services.

You don't really need to think about much - just answer the questions the assessor puts to you about how your condition affects your day to day life.

tanith

I never did understand how they can refuse , you'd think they'd only be too happy to help their patients.. my GP refused to do a report for my early retirement unless they paid, they offered £60 and he said it was peanuts compared to how much time it would take him... he didn't do it... now I see another doc in the practice..

petrolhead.

AsknAnswer2 wrote: »

Yes, it's allowed. They need to have a medical report to determine entitlement and as your Dr/consultant haven't been very helpful, they are left with little option but to have you assessed by their own medical services.

You don't really need to think about much - just answer the questions the assessor puts to you about how your condition affects your day to day life.

Yes that is all the OP can do now at this stage.

So in effect the decision that will be made, will be based on the DLA1 and a report commissioned by the Medical Services organisation that works for the DWP and are paid by the Government.

I wouldn't be holding my breath for too long in the hope of an impartial assessment!

Judge, Jury and Executioner come to mind!

To be honest and all joking put aside, the case is prejudiced before it starts - where is the alternative independent evidence if this was to go to appeal?

dmg24

tanith wrote: »

I never did understand how they can refuse , you'd think they'd only be too happy to help their patients.. my GP refused to do a report for my early retirement unless they paid, they offered £60 and he said it was peanuts compared to how much time it would take him... he didn't do it... now I see another doc in the practice..

The GP has to complete the report requested by the DWP. However, they do not have to go into any great depth. The OP's GP has done this. From what I can remember from previous posts the consultant they refer to is not a consultant in the traditional sense of the word, but rather a gatekeeper for tertiary services.

petrolhead.

tanith wrote: »

I never did understand how they can refuse , you'd think they'd only be too happy to help their patients.. my GP refused to do a report for my early retirement unless they paid, they offered £60 and he said it was peanuts compared to how much time it would take him... he didn't do it... now I see another doc in the practice..

GP's have a duty under their contract to give a very basic report to the DWP. However that type of report is very rarely much use. Given that the GP is 'forced' to carry out that work, he/she is not going to sit down and spend hours compiling a report of such depth that the OP would like.

If that is what the OP wants, then like everything else, the OP has to pay the going rate for it. You wouldn't find a solicitor, bank manager, accountant doing it for nothing!
Likewise a Medical Consultant is not required to compile a report for the patient or the DWP without payment which can and is generally substantial.

Preparing a report of that type on the basis that it would help the patient is not in the remit of their contract with the NHS.

£60 is an insult to a professional. I have no idea what GP's actually earn per hour, but if they fall into the same category as other professionals - £500 per hour is not expensive! (charge out rate is normally 3 x the hourly salary they earn).

If you want justice and fair play - then you have to pay for it.
Would you want a duty solicitor defending you on a serious criminal charge? No, you go for the best (and expensive) that will hopefully give you the result you want/hope for.

As regards your comment about seeing another GP in the practice, is that in the hope that he/she might be more persuaded to spend time compiling a report for you at no cost? Or is it, as it should be, based on a difference of opinion relating to medical matters or a clash of personalities?

tanith

My GP actually supported my Ill-health retirement very actively up until this point his report would of made things a lot less complicated and drawn out, I assumed that he would of done it if I had offered him more money but I wasn't able to do that. Having been my GP for 15yrs and seen me through several surgeries to enable me to keep working I did expect him to at least be more sympathetic knowing how I had struggled to stay in my job and how difficult it was to get an ill-health retirement from the NHS. So when it was all over I preferred to see someone else. No clash , I just felt our rapport was gone and felt uncomfortable with him..

dmg24

tanith wrote: »

My GP actually supported my Ill-health retirement very actively up until this point his report would of made things a lot less complicated and drawn out, I assumed that he would of done it if I had offered him more money but I wasn't able to do that. Having been my GP for 15yrs and seen me through several surgeries to enable me to keep working I did expect him to at least be more sympathetic knowing how I had struggled to stay in my job and how difficult it was to get an ill-health retirement from the NHS. So when it was all over I preferred to see someone else. No clash , I just felt our rapport was gone and felt uncomfortable with him..

You are confusing a professional relationship with a friendship. You would expect a friend to go the extra mile, but even to the most sympathetic GP you are only a patient.

tanith

dmg24 wrote: »

You are confusing a professional relationship with a friendship. You would expect a friend to go the extra mile, but even to the most sympathetic GP you are only a patient.

Maybe I did take his refusal too personally I don't make that mistake anymore...

Peanuckle

petrolhead. wrote: »

Yes that is all the OP can do now at this stage.

So in effect the decision that will be made, will be based on the DLA1 and a report commissioned by the Medical Services organisation that works for the DWP and are paid by the Government.

I wouldn't be holding my breath for too long in the hope of an impartial assessment!

Judge, Jury and Executioner come to mind!

To be honest and all joking put aside, the case is prejudiced before it starts - where is the alternative independent evidence if this was to go to appeal?

When my DLA came up for a random re-assessment (I had an old style lifetime award but had recently moved areas) my new GP refused to do a report as they had no knowledge of me. My review was therefore done based on the DLA1 and a medical arranged by the DWP. Surprise, surprise I was awarded the same rate in both sections as before............. don't always assume that assessing doctors lie

rich_shot2003

Just to ask do Doctors have to do these reports within a set time limit?

Some doctors could do them within a couple of weeks but i bet there are many that will take weeks maybe months to do them but DWP must set them time limits to get them done?