MSE News: Minister answers concerns on lone parent benefits

DX2

DaisyFlower wrote: »

I agree. those quoting lack of childcare or say it "damages" children are usually those on benefits trying to justify not working.

Whilst some children may be needed to sustain life and the economy, those brought up on benefits will in the main go on to claim themselves - that means two generations at least that will take any give nothing back. If we need more taxpayers paying into the system we should concentrate on using state money better rather than throwing it away.

You will find those going on about childcare are actually single parents to disabled children who actually don't have to look for work. As my lone parent advisor says "your so lucky". What?! I'm lucky that no one will care for my child if I want to work, because by god I do want to work. So if there are two generations on benefits then it's easier to blame the single parent.

Because actually addressing the disabled childcare facilities and then when these disabled children become adults addressing work placements for them is going to be far too much of a headache for the establishment.

But how lucky am I!

DX2

FBaby wrote: »

I do fully support any parent whose child is disabled, whether single or not, who have to look after their kids at home because no childcare will cater for their needs.

And this is a dam disgrace! why shouldn't we be allowed to go to work, why aren't our kids catered for? Because quiet simply it's too much hard work and it would cost a fortune.

DX2

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

It's not about segreation but is all about making sure the child gets ALL of their benefit money spent on them.



Private firms and this would provide jobs for those parents who are going without all their extras, because they haven't got their chilldrens benefits to spend on themselves anymore.

How many times on here do we see "all we are living on is my child benefit and child tax credit money". That money is not for the parents!

So you would have seperate budgets then?
Child related benefits help with things like gas, electric, food, clothes for the children. You can't seperate it no matter how hard you try.

Oldernotwiser

DX2 wrote: »

I totally agree, and it is interesting that those single parents posting on this thread like myself are in the exempt category yet here we are fighting and defending the right for all single parents.

And your last point is what puzzles me. You have good reason for not working but you're fighting for those who don't. It doesn't make sense.

DX2

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

And your last point is what puzzles me. You have good reason for not working but you're fighting for those who don't. It doesn't make sense.

I suppose because to a degree I do sympathize with other single parents.

FBaby

DX2 wrote: »

You had a career, how many young single parents even leave school with a Gcse under their belt. So is their much room from progressing up from a checkout operator at Tesco, becasue if they are lucky that's about the only employment they would get.

Well to start with, what were they doing getting pregnant before getting gcse? Then, even if it does happen, nothing is stopping them going back to studying and getting these gcse. Many parents work during the day and study in the evenings when their kids are in bed.

DX2

FBaby wrote: »

Well to start with, what were they doing getting pregnant before getting gcse?

No idea, maybe you could direct that question to the teens that do get pregnant at school? Although it certainly isn't a newish thing that girls under 16 get pregnant, there were at least 2 girls pregnant when I was in school. Or maybe you could direct your question to all the teenagers back in the good old days when they got pregnant and their parents sent them away to give birth and put the child up for adoption because a b*****d child was a disgrace to the family.

Because it certainly isn't a question I need to answer as I was never a gym slip mum.

Sixer

DX2 wrote: »

No idea, maybe you could direct that question to the teens that do get pregnant at school? Although it certainly isn't a newish thing that girls under 16 get pregnant, there were at least 2 girls pregnant when I was in school. Or maybe you could direct your question to all the teenagers back in the good old days when they got pregnant and their parents sent them away to give birth and put the child up for adoption because a b*****d child was a disgrace to the family.

Because it certainly isn't a question I need to answer as I was never a gym slip mum.

This happened to my <insert senior female relative term here>. After her boyfriend's mother hit her and called her a !!!!! (can one say this word on here? I shall soon discover) and her own parents couldn't face the shame, she was sent off to a Sally Army hostel, where she was so neglected she almost died of pre-eclampsia.

DX2 - you may have just opened a whole new Pandora's Box of suggestions for forced adoptions!

MissMoneypenny

DX2 wrote: »

So you would have seperate budgets then?
Child related benefits help with things like gas, electric, food, clothes for the children. You can't seperate it no matter how hard you try.

No seperate budget as the state will already be providing the housing, council tax, all meals, clothes, shoes and clubs etc for the child under this system. Which is what the child welfare payments should be spent now.

The parent can pay for the utility bills and thier own food from their income support or jsa. The state has already said that this £65 is enough for all these things for an adult to live on. You don't need to pay for the heat in the house or pay for the lights, twice.

The difference will be that the parent now can't access their child's benefits to top up their own lifestyle and the child will now get all their own welfare payments spent on them.

MissMoneypenny

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Even if you don't do this informally, there's always the possibility of sharing a nanny. Several of my friends used this system when their children were younger and it often worked out cheaper and more flexible than paying for a good nursery.

The solutions are always there, but some people don't want them.