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100,000 Public Sector Jobs Gone

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  • Really2
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    I suspect the truth is that they, like anyone who has gone through consultation and redundancies, know how disruptive it would be to run the process through multiple iterations. Far more efficient to make the tough calls in one go and then rebuild. It's certainly what the private sector would do.

    100% my take on it also, nothing to do with politics as a councils are local government, not central. There will be Labour and Libdem ones making their selves equally unpopular.
  • chucky
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    Really2 wrote: »
    100% my take on it also, nothing to do with politics as a councils are local government, not central. There will be Labour and Libdem ones making their selves equally unpopular.
    don't their budgets and infrastructure get affected postively and negatively by government?

    so for example moving a government office from one local council area to another local council area will increase employment in that council area - agreeing to bigger some influence.
  • DiggerUK wrote: »
    If resources can be found for degenerate bankers, then we can make the government find the resources for public services.



    The "Resources" that were given to the banks were "Borrowed" with a cheaper interest rate than the banks will (supposedly) pay back so we should make money on the deal.Personally I would have liked all the bankers strung up from lamposts along will all the f@ckless borrowers ,sadly this isn't practical due to health and safety regs .

    Are you suggesting that "Resources" are borrowed by the tax payer to keep on funding the huge Public Sector?...I think it was around Middlesbro that between 1998-2008 private sector jobs created were in the hundreds and yet Public sector grew by somewhere in the region of 30,000...... I was never sustainable and the chickens are coming home to roost.
  • Really2
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    edited 16 December 2010 at 1:12PM
    chucky wrote: »
    don't their budgets and infrastructure get affected postively and negatively by government?

    so for example moving a government office from one local council area to another local council area will increase employment in that council area - agreeing to bigger some influence.

    Do you mean like unitary authority (councils merging) AFIK (wife went through this 3 years ago and we did as we lived in the area)

    The local councils instigate it, propose it. Go to cosultaion with the public (pointless as they went ahead anyway even though 75% did not want it)
    It then goes to central government for approval.
    I am not aware of councils being forced to amalgamate. Indeed with the cuts some councils will be possibly looking to do this.
    But it is set up from a local level not central)

    Part of their budget is affected by central goverment (the rest is council tax) but that does not tell them to cut 25% in the first year. It is totally down to the coucils to get their finances to match.
    They could in reality cut every year by a few % if they wanted to, to match their reduced budgets.
  • chucky
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    Really2 wrote: »
    Do you mean like unitary authority (councils merging) AFIK (wife went through this 3 years ago and we did as we lived in the area)
    no i mean like a government agreeing to build an aircraft carrier in a certain part of the country for political reasons.

    the local government benefits are obvious.
  • abaxas
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    chucky wrote: »
    no i mean like a government agreeing to build an aircraft carrier in a certain part of the country for political reasons.

    the local government benefits are obvious.

    No,

    They'd just spunk the extra money on heameroid inclusion directors.
  • Really2
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    chucky wrote: »
    no i mean like a government agreeing to build an aircraft carrier in a certain part of the country for political reasons.

    the local government benefits are obvious.

    Possibly, but I am sure they would like to build ships in the west midlands (high industrial unemployment) so I am not sure that is all political.
  • Really2 wrote: »
    Possibly, but I am sure they would like to build ships in the west midlands (high industrial unemployment) so I am not sure that is all political.


    Could they build an Aircraft Carrier in the West Midlands? might be a bit of a job getting it to the sea.....:D
  • Really2
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    Could they build an Aircraft Carrier in the West Midlands? might be a bit of a job getting it to the sea.....:D

    That was kind of the point.;) (EG if it was political they would even though it was inland)
  • Really2 wrote: »
    That is illegal? are your department trying to be sued?
    They can't offer better terms for fewer years service or based on age?
    Are you having to build cases for voluntary, councils are just hanging out anybody on the same terms, what the point of giving them more voluntary when you can compulsory for less.
    Poor cost cutting IMHO.

    This is a civil service wide scheme which is proposed to be enforced by an Act of Parliament. Contracts can be overridden by Parliament under the doctrine of Parliamentary Sovereignty.

    Anyone with private assets really ought to be worried by this IMHO. Who's Stalin now?
    Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable. J. K. Galbraith
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