Car Parking Partnership - track record?

Serf

Does the Car Parking Partnership have a track record of taking claims to court?

My vehicle received a Civil Penalty Notice about a week ago for allegedly not displaying a ticket in a private car park. The photographic evidence was not clear and does not, in my opinion, prove their allegation that my vehicle didn't have a ticket.

A few days later my vehicle received a ticket from the same partnership for allegedly outstaying the terms of the ticket. I have not attempted to look at this evidence yet, especially as their first allegation seems far-fetched and the evidence weak.

Am I right to ignore any hypothetical letters that may be sent in the future? I am concerned that if I were to ignore all correspondence, ultimately I may become liable for a much bigger fine(s).

Mustard_Dave

Bin it. Private land = not enforceable.

They may send more letters which may be quite intimidating. They will not take you to court because they don't have a hope in hell of winning unless they can prove the driver (not the registered keeper) entered into a contract with them.

Do not reply to any correspondence; it just shows they have a 'live one' and they will be more persistent.

Coupon-mad

Almost no PPC does Court, only OPC, UKCPS and CPS spring to mind and they are very rare cases where they have usually lost. I think CPP have never done Court, you could ask on pepipoo as well:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

Don't worry about it at all though, join the club and ignore a PPC for Christmas.

bromsgrovebarry

In the very few instances when a PPC has won in court, it is usually by default ie the victim failed to turn up and fight his or her corner. An exception was the Thomas case so often quoted by the greater spotted pie eater may have been a set up. In any case, the vast majority of instances when PPCs have persued a debt through the courts, they have had their butts kicked. PPCs know that they will not win and stand to lose a lot of money so they will not do court.

HO87

What he said ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

It is my firmly held opinion, and that of many of the regular posters here, that the PPC's not only don't do court, as a matter of policy (indeed there is every reason to believe that it is central to their business model), but are entirely reliant upon the construction, form and frequency of their demands; the understandable ignorance of the general public and the very widespread fear of court proceedings and "damage to credit records" to make their money. Once that is understood everything becomes clear.

If, as many of them maintain, the real concern of PPC's was to uphold the rights of the landowners they are contracted to then we would see many, many more cases before the courts than we do. Furthermore, in an effort to test the avowed strength of the generic PPC case - against a well-prepared opponent - one well known forum threw down the gauntlet to one of the more litigious PPC's to run a case some while ago. What has become known as "The PePiPoo Challenge" has yet to be taken up and is now growing grey hair.

robredz

The only cases that seem to be bandied about are those that may have been staged by Perky and his chummies, there seems to be nothing that has been vigorously defended, being found in favor of the PPC, a bit like the Civil Recovery scene and Retail loss Prevention. who have admitted on a BBC investigation they have only won undefended claims. So best advice is as always ignore them.

Serf

Cheers, thanks for the tips. There may well be CCTV on the site, but is there not also the argument that if there isn't a sign at the entrance, the driver is not agreeing to enter into any kind of contract?

trisontana

Serf wrote: »

Cheers, thanks for the tips. There may well be CCTV on the site, but is there not also the argument that if there isn't a sign at the entrance, the driver is not agreeing to enter into any kind of contract?

So what? The CCTV will show an image of the car but not who was driving it. In private parking matters the company has to prove who was driving. That's just impossible to prove from a picture of the car.