Student Loans 2012

Lokolo

wintersunshine wrote: »

Why shouldn't setmefree2 be happy that her kids are going to end up in less debt? This is a money saving web site and this is a "STUDENT" money saving board.

You seem to forget that this is not a board for members of NATFHE! Wanting students to get loaded with debt doesn't seem to fit in with MSE's ethos.

Unfortunately it's statements like that, are what gives MSE a bad name.

You should learn the difference between good debt and bad debt.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/banking/student-money-saving?utm_source=forum&utm_medium=clicks&utm_campaign=resourcebar#costs

Just a little below this section explains it for you

melancholly

wintersunshine wrote: »

Why shouldn't setmefree2 be happy that her kids are going to end up in less debt? This is a money saving web site and this is a "STUDENT" money saving board.

You seem to forget that this is not a board for members of NATFHE! Wanting students to get loaded with debt doesn't seem to fit in with MSE's ethos.

anyone who wanted less debt on the heads of students would have massively objected to any of the coalitions changes!! in the last few months that have tripled the level of debt (allbeit not 'bad' debt, as pointed out above!) that students will have. trying to wrap a bow around it now and say that it will make changes to students rights isn't really making any sense.

i think the new system fails everyone - students have more personal debt, unis have less money, the taxpayer doesn't save any money.....

wintersunshine

Lokolo wrote: »

Unfortunately it's statements like that, are what gives MSE a bad name.

You should learn the difference between good debt and bad debt.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/banking/student-money-saving?utm_source=forum&utm_medium=clicks&utm_campaign=resourcebar#costs

Just a little below this section explains it for you

Are you mad? Whether debt is good or bad it is always better to have less of it! Just because you think debt is "good" doesn't mean you should take on loads of it. Less is best dear. It's posters like you who give MSE a bad name by the way

wintersunshine

melancholly wrote: »

anyone who wanted less debt on the heads of students would have massively objected to any of the coalitions changes!! in the last few months that have tripled the level of debt (allbeit not 'bad' debt, as pointed out above!) that students will have. trying to wrap a bow around it now and say that it will make changes to students rights isn't really making any sense.

i think the new system fails everyone - students have more personal debt, unis have less money, the taxpayer doesn't save any money.....

Are you deliberately missing the point? This is is a money saving website and this is a Student money saving board. It may be in your best interests for students to pay the maximum tuition fees as a lecturer (or whatever it is that you do) but it is not in students' best interests. So I'm not sure why you think it is OK to keep pushng the idea that tuition fees should be £9k, when it is very obviously in students' best interests that they are as low as possible.

Oldernotwiser

wintersunshine wrote: »

Are you deliberately missing the point? This is is a money saving website and this is a Student money saving board. It may be in your best interests for students to pay the maximum tuition fees as a lecturer (or whatever it is that you do) but it is not in students' best interests. So I'm not sure why you think it is OK to keep pushng the idea that tuition fees should be £9k, when it is very obviously in students' best interests that they are as low as possible.

It isn't in students' best interests to have lower fees if this goes along with poor facilities, large classes and no resources.

I don't think that anyone is "pushing" the idea of higher fees, just being realistic about the likelihood of them.

setmefree2

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-12613703

Exeter University plans £9,000 a year fees

Well to be honest, I'm not sure that Exeter has that great a reputation so I'd be more than happy for my kids to go to an equivalent but cheaper Uni....

Lokolo

setmefree2 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-12613703



Well to be honest, I'm not sure that Exeter has that great a reputation so I'd be more than happy for my kids to go to an equivalent but cheaper Uni....

My ex's siter went there to study History and Politics and is now training to be a lawyer, she's pretty smart.

But saying that, they don't have a computing department! Disappointing!

Lokolo

wintersunshine wrote: »

Are you mad? Whether debt is good or bad it is always better to have less of it! Just because you think debt is "good" doesn't mean you should take on loads of it. Less is best dear. It's posters like you who give MSE a bad name by the way

You've obviously never been in DT!

setmefree2

Lokolo wrote: »

My ex's siter went there to study History and Politics and is now training to be a lawyer, she's pretty smart.

But saying that, they don't have a computing department! Disappointing!

They are good for Politics and History but there are plenty of other Unis as good and better. The thing that stands out for me about Exeter is that employers don't target it for recruitment which I think is a big downside.

So if there was something cheaper it is unlikely that Exeter would be on a wish list.

PaulW1965

setmefree2 wrote: »

They are good for Politics and History but there are plenty of other Unis as good and better. The thing that stands out for me about Exeter is that employers don't target it for recruitment which I think is a big downside.

So if there was something cheaper it is unlikely that Exeter would be on a wish list.

Another downside is that a Uni charging £9k is effectively at war with the government and therefore could suffer large funding cuts when your/our childen are in later years of their university life. A Uni charging £7k is likely to be in a more stable position.