Claiming expenses - wifes employer NHS frowns upon it

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GilbertGradgrind wrote: »

She was asked to take a colleague. Which would suggest that the employer realises that it is an expense (regardless of facial expression) and so wished to minimise the expense by asking for two attendees to share travelling arrangements.

You might want to check the NHS Sustainable Development Unit Website. A lot of policy is being driven by a need to reduce the organisational carbon footprint. However, the big question would then be: why are many people travelling to a training session instead of a single trainer travelling to the trainees?

http://www.sdu.nhs.uk/documents/Mileage_Rate_Expenses_October_2010.pdf#search=%22travel%20expenses%22

If they wish to refuse the expense then it would be far more prudent for her to not take the liability of driving,

Not refused as such, just been told its 'frowned upon'.

In so many words, its considered 'not on' to claim. Totally pathetic IMHO.

clairec79

A lot of NHS contracts state that you can be asked to work anywhere in the trust rather than a particular site, if it says this in her contract that I imagine that their argument would be she has been asked to 'work' at an alternative site for the day as per her contract so they wouldn't pay.

Could the person she has been asked to pick up get to a point en route so she doesn't need to detour to pick them up?

BillTrac

I agree that she should be able to claim the additional mileage as expenses.

But an extra 5p per mile because she has a passenger is really taking the p**s.

Is the NHS (which we all pay for) saying that another person costs 5p per mile to carry? The passenger must have been a whale to cost that much in fuel.

Idea, only carry really skinny people and make a profit..:rotfl:

No wonder the NHS is going down the pan with stupid ideas like that. A proper business wouldn't get away with it

lucylucky

[quote=[Deleted User];39217484]Not refused as such, just been told its 'frowned upon'.

In so many words, its considered 'not on' to claim. Totally pathetic IMHO.[/QUOTE]


Hope they don't take too long to pay her legitimate claim.

"Frowned upon" - my @rse

Andy_L

BillTrac wrote: »

But an extra 5p per mile because she has a passenger is really taking the p**s.

Is the NHS (which we all pay for) saying that another person costs 5p per mile to carry? The passenger must have been a whale to cost that much in fuel.

If the alternative is paying them both 40p a mile, than a 5p passenger rate to incentivise car sharing is a bit of a bargain

[Deleted User]

Andy_L wrote: »

If the alternative is paying them both 40p a mile, than a 5p passenger rate to incentivise car sharing is a bit of a bargain

Exactly...

[Deleted User]

clairec79 wrote: »

A lot of NHS contracts state that you can be asked to work anywhere in the trust rather than a particular site, if it says this in her contract that I imagine that their argument would be she has been asked to 'work' at an alternative site for the day as per her contract so they wouldn't pay.

Could the person she has been asked to pick up get to a point en route so she doesn't need to detour to pick them up?

Detour is 5 miles so unless the other person walked/bussed those 5 miles....

barbie_babe

She was told to go on course and asked to pick up other staff so she should claim.
I have been a student nurse within the NHS(nurse now working outside NHS) and never been told we are not allowed to claim petrol back for going on courses. Going on courses are part of the NMC conduct for us to keep up todate in our area of work. This results in our patients getting better care.
Therefore it would not be frowned upon to claim back your petrol. I think the manager needs to be asked would she pay for it out of her own pocket if she had to go on a course.(I dont think so)

hcb42

[quote=[Deleted User];39221646]Exactly...[/QUOTE]

It's a legitimate business expense and she should claim.

However the alternative of not picking up a colleague is not that it saves money, it is the socially responsible thing to do and if colleagues are travelling from broadly the same area to another, then they should share for both commercial and environmental reasons, esp in that huge organisation that is the NHS which should be leading the way here. Insurance isnt really an issue, assuming most people can have class 1 business use for free. So the 5p thing seems a bit unnecessary to me, most colleagues I have ever worked with are glad to share and a five mile detour is nothing.

surreysaver

helencbradshaw wrote: »

in that huge organisation that is the NHS which should be leading the way here.

The NHS isn't a huge organisation - it is lots of smaller ones using the NHS logo..