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Claiming expenses - wifes employer NHS frowns upon it
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Is completely and utterly wrong. Commuting only applies to one single destination for work. Going to a training course is not classed as commuting. Doing any mileage as part of your job needs Class A Business Use adding. The best part is that its usually free (apart from mid term admin fees) and unlimited mileage. ALL TEMPORARY WORKERS who are not at the same place of employment for long periods should have it as commuting doesn't cover it.Not really ........ she just needs 'including commuting' on the 'use' aspect - as mine has always indicated.
She would need business use if carrying fare paying passengers ..... but the additional passenger supplement isn't construed as that. It's merely the extra wear and tear being compensated for.0 -
I work in IT and whenever I've had to do anything like use my private car I've claimed expenses. I even used to work in IT for the NHS and claimed expenses no problem.
of course this is a legitimate business expence, you are doing work for someone else.
Bud If your wife is going on a training course to educate her self so to speak
how can it be classed as a business expense. She is going to work, nothing more than that.
As for the car, going on a training course is not business travel, it is personal so no business insurance is needed.
And dont forget, it's our money we're talking about here.
Not really, its not yours anymore after its been taken in tax and NI, you should let it go!0 -
She was asked to take a colleague. Which would suggest that the employer realises that it is an expense (regardless of facial expression) and so wished to minimise the expense by asking for two attendees to share travelling arrangements.
You might want to check the NHS Sustainable Development Unit Website. A lot of policy is being driven by a need to reduce the organisational carbon footprint. However, the big question would then be: why are many people travelling to a training session instead of a single trainer travelling to the trainees?
http://www.sdu.nhs.uk/documents/Mileage_Rate_Expenses_October_2010.pdf#search=%22travel%20expenses%22
If they wish to refuse the expense then it would be far more prudent for her to not take the liability of driving,0 -
Bud If your wife is going on a training course to educate her self so to speak
how can it be classed as a business expense. She is going to work, nothing more than that.
As other have said, if you go somewhere other than your normal place of work at your employer's behest then you are entitled to at least the ADDITIONAL COST.
Assuming she did not have to take leave to attend this course then she was at work.0 -
They shouldn't frown too much, it'll give them premature wrinkles.0
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MrRedundant wrote: »I agree with them. Claiming for this journey is a bit off. Its 5 extra miles from her usual journey and the cost to her of it is miniscule. I take she will be supplying her business insurance certificate with the claim.
If it was 200 miles then fair enough.
No - it was 20 miles plus an extra 5 miles to pick the other person up. Normally its 3 miles to work.
Yes, she does have class 1 business insurance use. Most insurers will do this for free anyway.0 -
I work in IT and whenever I've had to do anything like use my private car I've claimed expenses. I even used to work in IT for the NHS and claimed expenses no problem.
of course this is a legitimate business expence, you are doing work for someone else.
Bud If your wife is going on a training course to educate her self so to speak
how can it be classed as a business expense. She is going to work, nothing more than that.
As for the car, going on a training course is not business travel, it is personal so no business insurance is needed.
And dont forget, it's our money we're talking about here.
A training course that her employer has requested she attend as part of her job.0 -
I'm not sure you understand what a business expense is, nor HMRC's definition of business mileage which this would clearly qualify for.
Yes the indiivdual has the benefit of extending their own knowledge, but it is the business who get the immediate benefit and clearly see it as important by putting employees on the course.
We have a number of courses run in London at my work. I think I'd be a little more reluctant if I had to pick up the tab for train travel down at peak times.
Final thought, if we followed your rule, individual decides they don't want to improve their knowledge, then do you think the business would mind if it was key to how they operate (or for that matter you as a patient)?
To clarify, wife didnt really have a choice on whether she went or not on this course. It was a request by her employer that she does this.0 -
Sorry but that is incorrect.
If you use your car to travel to and from work each day ONLY then you do not need "business use" on your policy.
However, if during your work time you need to travel in your car, frequently, sporadically or even just once every 6 months, then you should have business use on your policy. Otherwise you will not be covered as this is not considered personal use.
Having previously worked in the NHS I know that no mileage claims could be allowed (where I worked) unless the relevant insurance certificate with the business use included and been produced and signed off by the persons line manager.
I never had to prove I had business use included. But then its your own look out if you have an accident while on business and find your not insured, surely?0 -
I work in IT and whenever I've had to do anything like use my private car I've claimed expenses. I even used to work in IT for the NHS and claimed expenses no problem.
of course this is a legitimate business expence, you are doing work for someone else.
Bud If your wife is going on a training course to educate her self so to speak
how can it be classed as a business expense. She is going to work, nothing more than that.
As for the car, going on a training course is not business travel, it is personal so no business insurance is needed.
And dont forget, it's our money we're talking about here.
Thought it wouldnt be long before someone said since its the NHS its different. Maybe all NHS workers should go to work for free?0
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