gas pipes in wall? and washing machine question

techmob

Hi

i am getting the central heating done and would of prefered gas pipes hidden in walls etc but i have been told they are not allowed to do them?

what are the reasons for not having pipes in walls other than the obvious of potentially hitting a nail in one?

Also our kitchen has only one pipe to connect to the washing machine, our washing machine uses hot and cold thus needing two pipes, whats the best way around this?

thanks

maninthestreet

So you only have a cold-water feed to the washing machine??

ormus

either install/feed a hot line to the machine, or use a Y piece to feed both inlets with cold.
your machine cycle will take longer, as it will then need to heat the water.

ariba10

techmob wrote: »

Hi

Also our kitchen has only one pipe to connect to the washing machine, our washing machine uses hot and cold thus needing two pipes, whats the best way around this?

thanks

While you are getting the CH done ask them to put a hot water supply to the washing machine.

Alternatively use the machine as cold fill only. The extra cost of warming the water is low.

techmob

Thanks for the replies

i will ask them about having a hot water supply to the washing machine i think i would prefer that. (i am waiting for a quote for the CH, but i have not asked about this yet, how much extra do you think that would cost)

and yes there is only a cold feed there

Does anyone know about the pipe work going into walls?

thanks

ariba10

Depending on the length of the pipe work to bring the hot water to the machine, it might not be worth it.

Modern day machines do not take a lot of water and the amount of cold water in the "Dead leg" might be enough to fill the machine.

keystone

techmob wrote: »

i will ask them about having a hot water supply to the washing machine i think i would prefer that. (i am waiting for a quote for the CH, but i have not asked about this yet, how much extra do you think that would cost) and yes there is only a cold feed there

This is largely a waste of time TBH. Any water in the hot feed will have got cold in the time between washes so you have to drag all that cold water out of the leg until you get hot. If your hot water is derived from a tank the system the uses fuel to reheat the tank. You might as well just use a Y piece (as Ormus suggests) have cold feed to both allowing the WM to heat the water it receives as required.

Does anyone know about the pipe work going into walls?

Yes - don't do it with gas.

Cheers

Edit: Ariba got there first wrt a hot feed but it doesn't change the message.

techmob

the washine manine we have has two pipe connections. so a Y piece should sort it then? would all washine machines be designed to heat the water regardless of it having a hot and cold feed?

thanks

keystone

techmob wrote: »

the washine manine we have has two pipe connections. so a Y piece should sort it then?

Yes - its very common.

would all washine machines be designed to heat the water regardless of it having a hot and cold feed?

Dependent on the programme selected yes. If the WM requires water at 90 degs C for programe X and the standard hot water feed only provides it at 50 then yes it will heat it to the temp it requires. All modern machines are now cold feed only.

Cheers

techmob

what about pipes for radiators? can they be burried in the wall?

keystone wrote: »

This is largely a waste of time TBH. Any water in the hot feed will have got cold in the time between washes so you have to drag all that cold water out of the leg until you get hot. If your hot water is derived from a tank the system the uses fuel to reheat the tank. You might as well just use a Y piece (as Ormus suggests) have cold feed to both allowing the WM to heat the water it receives as required.

Yes - don't do it with gas.

Cheers

Edit: Ariba got there first wrt a hot feed but it doesn't change the message.

keystone

techmob wrote: »

what about pipes for radiators? can they be burried in the wall?

Its better to box them in if they have to drop down a wall.

Cheers