PCN on hire car- but no ticket

fruitycar

I have received a letter from hire car company stating that I was got a PCN on the car I had hired from them. It was issued at 08.18 am on a Monday morning, I had been staying overnight with my daughter and son -in-law. This letter was the first I knew of parking ticket as there was nothing on the car. Original ticket was issued on 20-09-2010. If there had been a ticket on the car I would have dealt with it straight away, paying the reduced fine, but obviously this is way beyond the 14 days.
Looking for advice on what to do now. I have had a bill from the Hire company for 'admin' costs but not heard from the council

esmerobbo

If it was a official PCN then the hire company will pay it. Its easier for them. Is it defiantly a council PCN?

The council will send the PCN to the hirer as they are the registered keeper.

fruitycar

yes it is a council pcn . The hire company letter says they will inform the issuing council with my details and the council MAY send the fine directly to me. I guess my contention is if there had been a ticket on the car when I returned to it I would have paid it staight away, but it seems now that the fine will be full charge plus 50% because of how long this has taken to come to my attention.

Whatdoiknow

I cannot guarantee this but would the council just re-issue another notification with further timescale to pay when they have your details from the hire company.

For example as a company we lease our cars so in the first instance any notifications of parking or speeding fines are sent to the leasing company, they then reply giving the details of our Company, we then receive them and send them back with the driver details so all payment dates are usually rolled on hopefully.

Oh and you will have an admin fee to pay as we as a company get them from the leasing company and we pass that on to the driver.

esmerobbo

Whatdoiknow wrote: »

I cannot guarantee this but would the council just re-issue another notification with further timescale to pay when they have your details from the hire company.

Yes I believe they will reissue now to the driver, if the hirer passed the details on. So the time-scale should restart from the reissue.

fruitycar

esmerobbo wrote: »

Yes I believe they will reissue now to the driver, if the hirer passed the details on. So the time-scale should restart from the reissue.

Thanks for your help and information. I have received a bill from the hire company for 'admin' costs but nothing from the council yet.
Lets hope there is no further delay with this weather.
Fruity

fruitycar

esmerobbo wrote: »

Yes I believe they will reissue now to the driver, if the hirer passed the details on. So the time-scale should restart from the reissue.

I have received Nto dated 13th December for £60. Is there any way I can argue to pay the reduced £30 because there was no ticket on the car. Had there been a ticket I would have just paid it within the 14 days as I am not disputing I was parked there.
fruity

esmerobbo

There will be an address on the NTO to send representation too. Write to them stating that a PCN was not left on the vehicle and this is the first notification you have had. Explain that you wish to pay the PCN but have lost the opportunity to do so at the reduced rate.

PS: Some councils have an online service to do this!

Coupon-mad

fruitycar wrote: »

I have received Nto dated 13th December for £60. Is there any way I can argue to pay the reduced £30 because there was no ticket on the car. Had there been a ticket I would have just paid it within the 14 days as I am not disputing I was parked there.
fruity

Hold on! Don't just send a formal appeal without expert help from pepipoo:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

Post there, you won't regret it. They get most people off most PCNs from Councils. There's a lot more to this formal appeal lark than meets the eye and hopefully you won't even have to pay the £30 in the end.

It's got to be worth registering on pepipoo without a doubt.

Read the FAQs and stickies and posting there asap with pics of all sides of all your documents & letters. If you take the matter all the way to the adjudicator you'll only have to pay the full fine if you lose, no costs or anything - so don't rush to pay nor to send a partial formal appeal when you could well be missing a trick or two!

HTH

esmerobbo

Good advise from CC I was assuming you agreed the original PCN was correctly issued.

fruitycar

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Hold on! Don't just send a formal appeal without expert help from pepipoo:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

Post there, you won't regret it. They get most people off most PCNs from Councils. There's a lot more to this formal appeal lark than meets the eye and hopefully you won't even have to pay the £30 in the end.

It's got to be worth registering on pepipoo without a doubt.

Read the FAQs and stickies and posting there asap with pics of all sides of all your documents & letters. If you take the matter all the way to the adjudicator you'll only have to pay the full fine if you lose, no costs or anything - so don't rush to pay nor to send a partial formal appeal when you could well be missing a trick or two!

HTH

will take a look later on ,
esmerobbo, you are correct, i think the ticket was correctly issued, albeit at 08.18 on a Monday morning. what I am aiming for is the chance to pay the reduced fine.
Thanks guys