Candidates - Things To Be Aware Of When Using A Recruitment Agency

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liney wrote: »

It probably just changed it's name to something else with a slight variation of terms.

It was £250 either at the start or after 3 months (or 1 or 2 months) then another £250 after 3 or 6 months if they were still employed.

The qualification was they had to be 6mths plus out of work.

The scheme ended around June time.

cavework

I worked with some of the best people I could ever wish to meet when I was in recruitment , the consultants , the clients and the people who registered with me looking for work.. I still keep in touch with some of the people I placed.
I have seen the hard work that Consultants do to get the job for someone who has taken the trouble to register with them.
It isn't all about commission .. the reward you get when finding someone work and they are so pleased you took the time to consider they were worth fighting for is the real bonus.
The long hours .. the targets set and the grief you get just for trying to do your job is something that a lot of people could not imagine.
The hard a**** cut throat Consultants with no regard for their candidates usually end up out of work PDQ..
or limping

CCFC_80

spiritus wrote: »

I have never heard about that but of course that doesn't mean it's not true.

There has to be an incentive why agencies are so keen to get people to register on their books.

For those of us who have been to these notorious job registration appointments, have you noticed how much time the consultant/sales exec. affords you. They can chat to you all afternoon yet once you're on their books you'll be hard pushed to get any further contact from them.

There is, so they can get job/sales leads from all your recent applications,contact names of previous managers you have worked for,names of HR managers you have had interviews with.This is to benefit them so the consultants can get their commission. You will just stay on the books of most agencies for ever as placing the candidate in work will be their lowest priority. To keep reiterating employment agencies are not their to help candidates find work but to service their clients needs and getting commission for the agency Recruitment staff.

CCFC_80

spiritus wrote: »

I have read it again and I will repeat again what said earlier.

Just because an agency doesn't use the words "our job advert is fake" or "that vacancy does not exist" does not mean they are not advertising jobs which no longer exist in order to get candidates through the door.

We don't need an admission from the agency that some of them are continuing with this practice but a lack of admission doesn't mean it doesn't go on.

Are you confident enough to tell us all that every single agency is clear and transparent with the way they recruit staff ? If the answer to that question is "no" then accept the fact that some people may have a point when they point to underhand tactics employed by some agencies in this country.

Agencies do advertise fake jobs and please do not tell me they don't. I applied for one a couple of years ago with a leading High Street name (1st word starts with an "O" and 2nd word starts with an "A")
The young consultant actually admitted to me it was a Phantom job in an attempt to get people to register as they might get similar roles in the future. Maybe she shouldn't have told me that but she did.

jay_1978

andy46 wrote: »

Agencies do advertise fake jobs and please do not tell me they don't. I applied for one a couple of years ago with a leading High Street name (1st word starts with an "O" and 2nd word starts with an "A")
The young consultant actually admitted to me it was a Phantom job in an attempt to get people to register as they might get similar roles in the future. Maybe she shouldn't have told me that but she did.

Nobody believes us lol, What reason would we have to come on here and lie ?

cavework

So all these leads/ contacts the ruthless Consultant milks you for while spending hours (allegedly) interviewing you for absolutley no reason because they really don't want to give you a job .. are just for the Consultant to make calls to find out where the jobs are so they can then advertise and .. here we go .. spend hours interviewing the next lot of applicants to then again ignore these people as well just to make calls to the find out where ............. I won't go on

Bit odd but ..surely the job vacancies these Nasty timewasting Consultants actually get from this supposed underhand way of dealing with interviews are the reason you are there registering for employment off the back of the supposedly unsuspecting last lot that registered?
Tell me and where does the agency make any money if they don't find positions for these people being 'ripped off'
What exactly is the point of looking for vacancies if you have no intention of trying to fill them?

CCFC_80

cavework wrote: »

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Are you confident enough to tell us all that every single agency is clear and transparent with the way they recruit staff ? If the answer to that question is "no" then accept the fact that some people may have a point when they point to underhand tactics employed by some agencies in this country.

Are you confident enough to tell us that every person who registers with an Agency tells the Consultant the whole truth?
Some will come and register because they have to prove to the job centre they are looking for work. You can offer every vacancy going but there will always be a reason why they ' can't do that particular job'

This is an issue that you should take up with the government who want to take the current economical mess out on the unemployed instead of their chums in the banking industry .

As to now being totally truthful to the consultant, perhaps now not a good idea based on The OP who appeared to be stabbed in the back by the Agency consultant after she was offered a job and that consultant trying to take it away from her.

cavework

andy46 wrote: »

This is an issue that you should take up with the government who want to take the current economical mess out on the unemployed instead of their chums in the industry .

As to now being totally truthful to the consultant, perhaps now not a good idea based on The OP who appeared to be stabbed in the back by the Agency consultant after she was offered a job and that consultant trying to take it away from her.

Andy I respect your opinion but I don't think we will ever see eye to eye about recruitment agencys.
The OP 'appeared' to be stabbed in the back by the consultant but chose not to tell anyone she had already been in contact prior to the interview until asked.
The OP does not think this fact is relevant .. my opinion differs .
I think ( I may be wrong) she tried to hold the Agency and maybe also Company 1 to ransome . I don't blame her for this but she got burned

CCFC_80

cavework wrote: »

So all these leads/ contacts the ruthless Consultant milks you for while spending hours (allegedly) interviewing you for absolutley no reason because they really don't want to give you a job .. are just for the Consultant to make calls to find out where the jobs are so they can then advertise and .. here we go .. spend hours interviewing the next lot of applicants to then again ignore these people as well just to make calls to the find out where ............. I won't go on

Bit odd but ..surely the job vacancies these Nasty timewasting Consultants actually get from this supposed underhand way of dealing with interviews are the reason you are there registering for employment off the back of the supposedly unsuspecting last lot that registered?
Tell me and where does the agency make any money if they don't find positions for these people being 'ripped off'
What exactly is the point of looking for vacancies if you have no intention of trying to fill them?

Priorities of Recruitment Agencies in order.
1) Make money for the consultants
2) Service their clients need
3) Place people in work placements

Don't know what the ratio of people who register with agencies is to the people you would place in work but their is obviously a very high amount of people that you don't find placements for as opposed to people that you would. so obviously one or two would strike it lucky.
It doesn't take a genius to work out that the people you would find placements for would be due to all the leads you get out of the unsuccessful ones that register.

As for your point about Agency making money, perhaps at the moment they don't. In my town over the past couple of years we have gone from about 15 Agencies to about 7. It would be nice to think for me that employers are no longer using them but it is the current economical situation.

CCFC_80

cavework wrote: »

Andy I respect your opinion but I don't think we will ever see eye to eye about recruitment agencys.
The OP 'appeared' to be stabbed in the back by the consultant but chose not to tell anyone she had already been in contact prior to the interview until asked.
The OP does not think this fact is relevant .. my opinion differs .
I think ( I may be wrong) she tried to hold the Agency and maybe also Company 1 to ransome . I don't blame her for this but she got burned

You are wrong Cavework, this never happened particularly the bit about holding the agency to ransom (see earlier posts).