My lad not entitled to JSA

Bamber19

Lincoln_Imp wrote: »

Anyway he has been to see about JSA

Obviously the people in the jobcentre have information but they can be wrong and they've nothing to do with the decision on whether he is entitled to JSA or not. He should phone the claim line or make a claim online.

Oldernotwiser

Lincoln_Imp wrote: »

Sammyjammy ..not willing to ,and i wouldnt want him to because he would be throwing away 3 years at college as its a 4 year course and he is in his last year

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He would have to be prepared to say that he would do this but that's not the same as actually doing it.;) He only has about 6 months to play the game and go through the motions, even if he doesn't get another job.

As long as he is studying (including private study) for less than 16 hours a week, he could be eligible to claim JSA. Tell him to see his Student Services/Welfare Office for advice as they will have more accurate information than the JCP.

By the way, if his company are no longer funding the course, he would have been eligible for a grant to pay the fees - didn't he apply for it?

sammyjammy

If it's not reasonably expected that the OPs son could actually get a job within the hours he is available then they won't pay him. Anybody is entitled to make a claim for JSA whether its actually allowed for payment depends on decision makers. I would suggest that the OPs son insists on making a claim for JSA and takes it from there. Collecting some evidence to support his claim would prove most useful. Provide evidence of vacancies advertised that would allow the son to keep his college course going.

At the end of the day if the claim is disallowed for payment then the only option is to continue as you are. I appreciate and understand how you feel about his future career and he should consider himself lucky he has parents willing and able to support him in this, lots would have no choice but to give the course up.

Another useful piece of advice is to make notes of everything he is told and the name of the person, if this at a later date proves wrong then he could claim misdirection which would help his claim (could even try to get it backdated)

Best of luck

Sam

Lincoln_Imp

Once again thank all for the very useful replies
I will get him to read these and go from there
Thanks

Tiddlywinks

Where abouts are you in the UK?

Are there any seasonal jobs around? How about jobs in fast food restaurants or coffee shops?

dawyldthing

I know when I defered a year due to failing an exam back in 2007-2008 from uni I couldn't get a penny from JSA as even though I couldn't get any student loans and I wasn't studying because I was still 'registered with university' as they were keeping my place open for the following year they wouldn't give me any money at all so I ended up working my way through the year as I just needed help like your son just to get me on my feet.

Lincoln_Imp

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

Where abouts are you in the UK?

Are there any seasonal jobs around? How about jobs in fast food restaurants or coffee shops?

Lincoln

Not a lot of seasonal around now as most have already been taken up ,made redundant a month late really

He was due to work on the Xmas market for 4 days but that was cancelled
He sat down the other day and wrote 26 letters out for various posts ,so far nothing

Trouble is my youngest lad is at uni and because i earn over 20k he isnt getting much help so i now have 2 kids needing financial help

Oh well i suppose im in a good position where i can do some more overtime to keep them and the most important thing here is their education

I just find it hard to understand that if i sat on my !!!! all day claiming every benefit going i can get help for both of them but because i work and have done for the last 30 years they are entitled to sod all

Oldernotwiser...
Will look in to the fees ..thanks
Thanks for replies once again :T

ceridwen

NickyBat wrote: »

think it would do him good to go back and speak to his adviser and let them know he is only doing 8 hours a week, what does he do the other 4 days?

Agreed - and SAY that he is willing to give up the course if a job comes up. (Obviously he will/should continue with the course - so he will have to tell a "white lie" there - and he shouldnt be put in the position of having to do so. But needs must - so tell them what they want to hear and all should be cushty - ie he keeps doing the course and gets his benefit okay).

I agree that it would be a huge waste of time/effort/your money if he were to give up the course now - when he's nearly there - just 2 terms to go and he will finish it.

In your position (ie as his parent) it would be my first priority to make sure that he stays at the College and finishes his course.

Lincoln_Imp

ceridwen wrote: »

Agreed - and SAY that he is willing to give up the course if a job comes up. (Obviously he will/should continue with the course - so he will have to tell a "white lie" there - and he shouldnt be put in the position of having to do so. But needs must - so tell them what they want to hear and all should be cushty - ie he keeps doing the course and gets his benefit okay).

I agree that it would be a huge waste of time/effort/your money if he were to give up the course now - when he's nearly there - just 2 terms to go and he will finish it.

In your position (ie as his parent) it would be my first priority to make sure that he stays at the College and finishes his course.

Agree with that ,number 1 priority here is him finishing the course ,good thing is he agrees with me which makes a change

ceridwen

Lincoln_Imp wrote: »

Agree with that ,number 1 priority here is him finishing the course ,good thing is he agrees with me which makes a change

Yep...he knows which side his bread is buttered - sounds like he appreciates he has got a father who is trying to help him "get started out on the right foot".:T