Alternative to flueless gas fire - with no chimney?

nobile

I have a flueless gas fire in a room - but its just not agreeing with us after a year of having it - the ventillation block required just means we lose the heat that the heater produces.

I am looking to remove it - but have a few questions:-

1) Is it possible to change the position of the flueless fire & put it against a wall that backs onto the garden?

or

2) Could I get a conventional gas fire and get it installed to the wall that backs onto the garden?

3) Is there any other GAS heating solution (non-flueless) for a room that doesnt have a chimney?

Thanks

John_3:16

I think you can put a balanced flue gas fire on an outside wall but it may have to be away from opening windows?

Jonesya

There's quite a range of options now available for the flame effect type units.

You can get powered/fanned flues which have box on the outside wall to extract the combustion fumes, some even have long ducts to allow you to have the fire on an internal wall. As mentioned, balanced flue units are available, these are room sealed and so the appliance gets its air supply direct from outside, they don't have a fan.

We had an early fanned flue unit, nice to see the coals/flames directly but it's not silent because of the fan which got noisier with age and it wasn't that efficient. Now replaced with a balanced flue unit, much more efficient (~80%), completely silent, only downside is that being sealed it has glass front but much better overall.

nobile

Thanks guys - can an existing flueless fire be adapted to have this 'box' or 'balanced flue effect'?

nobile

http://www.hotprice.co.uk/2116/70/1/type/flueless-gas-fires.html

Can I ask if any of the Top 5 fires in the above link can be fitted onto an outside wall in a room where there is no chimney - a relative has bought one against my advice!

John_3:16

We have a flueless gas fire. Don't have it on much as we also have a woodburner. I would not go for another because of the smell from them. We also had a powered flue gas fire looked good but the fan running all the time was not good (Noise) if you can, go for one without the fan if possible, is my advice FWIW.

The fires in the link are all fluless so can go on any wall without a chimney, I thought you wanted to get away from a flueless gas fire? or why do you want it against the garden wall?

nobile

John_3:16 wrote: »

We have a flueless gas fire. Don't have it on much as we also have a woodburner. I would not go for another because of the smell from them. We also had a powered flue gas fire looked good but the fan running all the time was not good (Noise) if you can, go for one without the fan if possible, is my advice FWIW.

The fires in the link are all fluless so can go on any wall without a chimney, I thought you wanted to get away from a flueless gas fire? or why do you want it against the garden wall?

We dont have any 'smell' issues - just the ventillation - its an icy chilly blast that is permenant through that vent!

John_3:16

You can get draught proof vents that cut down the draught. The other thing I thought of was putting a box around the vent leaving the top open. That way it would stop the draught but let air in. Not sure how high the box would be to stop the draught. As we don't use the fire much I have put a splastic sliding cover on it to shut off when not in use.

Mankysteve

Or install heat exchanger instead of vent.

Canucklehead

John_3:16 wrote: »

You can get draught proof vents that cut down the draught. The other thing I thought of was putting a box around the vent leaving the top open. That way it would stop the draught but let air in. Not sure how high the box would be to stop the draught. As we don't use the fire much I have put a splastic sliding cover on it to shut off when not in use.

:eek:Unsafe practice... use a Stadium vent.

Canucklehead

nobile

Mankysteve wrote: »

Or install heat exchanger instead of vent.

What is that?