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is it legal?

Know this is off the wall a bit, but if you don't ask ;)

Anyway is it legal for someone to place a ticket on your vehicle without permission, or clamp you I suppose? could you for example sue a PPC/Clamper or Council for tresspass (or something similar) on your property.

Just thought i'd ask lol
Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
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  • Stigy
    Stigy Posts: 1,581 Forumite
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    Why would you be ticketed/clamped on your own property? I guess maybe it happens somewhere?
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    Stigy wrote: »
    Why would you be ticketed/clamped on your own property? I guess maybe it happens somewhere?

    You misunderstand me, for example you park your property (car) in a car park, if someone places a ticket on the window without your permission, can you sue them in theory. ?
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • diable
    diable Posts: 5,258 Forumite
    Read the small print on the entrance to the car park.
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    diable wrote: »
    Read the small print on the entrance to the car park.

    What you mean the signs that you can't see when you enter or park ? ;)

    Still it doesn't say I should imagine that I give permission to touch my property, and place items on my windscreen, so tbe question remains.
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 1 December 2010 at 10:32PM
    diable wrote: »
    Read the small print on the entrance to the car park.


    Why would anyone do that - there should be no SMALL print if PPCs want to try to allege a contract with a driver whose only vantage point to read any t&cs is behind the wheel of a moving car.

    And surely you don't believe that a ticket slapped on a vehicle on private land is enforceable - you are a very regular MSEer after all and surely know about this con? Martin covered this scam in online and newspaper articles years before Watchdog ever covered it (this year).

    And taffy, I think yes, you can allege 'tortious interference with goods' (that's what they call it on pepipoo about illegal clamping). But AIUI there has to be loss or damages:

    http://www.a-level-law.com/tort/trespass_to_goods/notes.htm

    HTH - and if Stigy tries to convince anyone that a PPC bogus ticket is enforceable, it isn't.
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  • trisontana
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    taffy056 wrote: »
    Know this is off the wall a bit, but if you don't ask ;)

    Anyway is it legal for someone to place a ticket on your vehicle without permission, or clamp you I suppose? could you for example sue a PPC/Clamper or Council for tresspass (or something similar) on your property.

    Just thought i'd ask lol

    There was a case mentioned over on CAG where a PPC actually glued a ticket onto the windscreen of a motorbike. The glue reacted with the acrylic material of the windscreen and caused permanent damage. I think the owner of the bike is suing the PPC over this.
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  • diable
    diable Posts: 5,258 Forumite
    taffy056 wrote: »
    What you mean the signs that you can't see when you enter or park ? ;)

    Still it doesn't say I should imagine that I give permission to touch my property, and place items on my windscreen, so tbe question remains.
    What about the postman that delivers letters to your home that touches your property and what do you touch without the owners permission in your daily life?
  • diable
    diable Posts: 5,258 Forumite
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    Why would anyone do that - there should be no SMALL print if PPCs want to try to allege a contract with a driver whose only vantage point to read any t&cs is behind the wheel of a moving car.

    And surely you don't believe that a ticket slapped on a vehicle on private land is enforceable - you are a very regular MSEer after all and surely know about this con? Martin covered this scam in online and newspaper articles years before Watchdog ever covered it (this year).

    And taffy, I think yes, you can allege 'tortious interference with goods' (that's what they call it on pepipoo about illegal clamping). But AIUI there has to be loss or damages:

    http://www.a-level-law.com/tort/trespass_to_goods/notes.htm

    HTH - and if Stigy tries to convince anyone that a PPC bogus ticket is enforceable, it isn't.
    If the T&C's are read then you minimise the risk of your car being "touched or fondled" nothing was said about PPC's but the absurd notion that your property can't be touched as if your ordered a pizza for delivery and paid for it then it is your property but can't be touched by the delivery driver as you could be sued.........
  • anewman
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    Could it not be considered littering? If ever I get a leaflet under my wiper blade on the floor of the car park it goes. You might say that's littering, I say the littering happened when it was put on my windscreen. Hopefully the car park owner will either have a good litter picker employed or be annoyed enough to phone the number on the leaflet and tell em to eff off, and not leaflet cars on their land.

    Regards posters going on about pizzas and letters, is there just not something entirely different about other people's cars? I.e. do you think touching someone's car is acceptable? To me it is not unless you have been invited to get in the car, to clean it or to work on it. Otherwise it's none of your business really.

    People who think it's acceptable to touch other peoples cars are either those b*****d door dingers who park right next to you then slam their car door into your car leaving dents, leaflet distributors, dodgy PPC's, thieves trying to nick your aerial, or kids trying to set an alarm off or get snow to make snow balls. All as bloody annoying as each other if you ask me.
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    diable wrote: »
    What about the postman that delivers letters to your home that touches your property and what do you touch without the owners permission in your daily life?

    I asked a question specifically about the theory of you not giving permission for your property being touched in a car park, just because your vehicle is parked it doesn't immediately give someone the right to interfere with it, my first parking ticket was issued in the summer, and the person who issued it broke my windscreen wiper!

    And in regards to the postman, if you don't want him at your property, you can choose to pick your mailup at the sorting office!
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
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