ccj from a website

stevojay

yeh i do but they have said that it would prob cost me another £1000 to add to it as again there is no programming involved he has just given the pictures even on disc

but even then the work that he stated in court is not the work he has given me as i had over 200 products and there is only 16 i had competition pages that you cant change he has even put wrong pictures on etc

stevojay

the work done to date was a live website it was live for about 3/4 weeks
it had products, images, flash, online forms etc and cant use any of that now

im avoiding to pay of course because its not what i should have and i am determined not to pay until i get what i was supposed to get.

again were talking nearly £3,000 to just give away for some pictures on some paper because that all they are worth to me

dmg24

Why was the website taken down after 3/ 4 weeks? When was this in relation to the court case?

It is difficult to know what to advise because you are adding more info to the situation, and this info *could* change things.

stevojay

because it went live and within those 3/4 weeks we had a massive argument and as he had the passwords, logins etc he took it down then started demanding money saying i will make it live when you pay

i said you have never ever sent me a bill for works never ever sent an hourly rate etc u was supposed to be a friend and he said well were not and i want paying until you pay you don't get your website

dmg24

Was this before or after the court case?

stevojay

this was before the court case

but during the court case he told them he had given me the website and then during it he emailed me stating you will get your website when you have paid for it.

when i showed this in court they said i couldn't add any new evidence

dmg24

OK, if it had been after the case you may have had another course of action, but as it wasn't it doesn't change things.

To me, the only options you have now are to pay or not to pay. If you do not intend to pay, you need to find out what the consequences of this would be.

As hard as it is, I think you need to write this off as a bad experience. I don't think you have anything to gain by pursuing this. Small claims actions are often decided upon who has presented the more coherent/ reasoned argument, and I fear this is why you lost. I have won several small claims actions because the law was on my side, but on one occasion I represented an employer at a Tribunal who was in the wrong (ironically it was to do with web production!), and we won because the claimant had been so sure he was in the right he had not presented his evidence well.

stevojay

but surely it does

if he states during the case that the website was up and running states it was live states what the website was supposed to do and what he had done then surely if the judge is making me pay for the work done to date then surely i should get that work but i don't have any of that

stevojay

i realise now i presented wrong etc but to me this is a different case entirely

i have not received what i should have got and i want to pursue it with the right presentation

its so wrong that because i couldn't afford legal action i'm penalised

dmg24

The problem is that you do not have an action until you have paid - you have not provided consideration for the service that you have not received. Once you have paid, if you can establish that you were paying for a live website, you may then have an action.

I really can understand your frustration, but I think you need to sit down with a solicitor (not CAB) and actually review the paperwork from the original case. The key question is - what was the awarded amount in payment for?