Sewage smells in bedrooms HELP!

anotherbaldrick

Lets not over-egg the pudding .

Katy , if my previous assumption is correct regarding plugging the open end of the pipe with concrete that is where your problem probably is . This will not have formed an airtight seal to the pipe end. Cement / concrete will not adhere to PVC even if the old pipe is cast iron the cement plug will not have effectively bonded to the pipe wall and will be allowing air to escape past into the room . please can you elaborate more on what is visible inside and outside around this abandoned pipe connection.

hubert_cumberdale

you havent used some of that paint on the walls recently that smells like poo about a month after its dried have you

keystone

anotherbaldrick wrote: »

Lets not over-egg the pudding.

Quite! This job obviously needs an electrician - IMMEDIATELY - :rotfl::rotfl:.

Cheers

kookookaty

yes that's correct - feel something onimous is going to follow......

keystone

kookookaty wrote: »

yes that's correct - feel something onimous is going to follow......

Katy - please take no notice of the post above it wasn't directed at you and it really has nothing to do your problem.

Can you provide the pictures I asked about and also details about what is actualy under the floor in the bedroom that used to be a bathroom.

Thanks.

Cheers

kookookaty

...sorry and will put a pic up tomorrow thanks very much everybody

kookookaty

Hi I've attached a pic as an avatar - not sure how else I can do it. Just to recap, there is a bathroom at front of house on the top floor. The soil pipe leaves the house under the top floor back bedroom. There was a bathroom in the back bedroom on the middle floor over 10 years ago before we moved in. There is a soil pipe blocked with cement under the window of the middle floor but no other pipes in the floorboards. There is another showeroom with toilet in the ground floor extension. The manhole is at the foot of the pic. The smells started about 2 months ago shortly followed by a blocked toilet in the shower room then we discovered that the manhole was blocked and unblocked this with rods. There was a lot of backup waste coming from the main soil pipe. The top floor toiler has never flushed properly - I am worried that there is waste stuck in the pipe?? Hope this gives you a clearer idea of the problem. Thanks so much in advance.

Sorry it's not letting me save my pic to an avatar - do you have any other ideas how I can attach a pic? Thanks

keystone

Actually it has worked. To put an image in the thread. Upload it to imageshack or tinypic or photobucket or similar. The site will provide you with several links for that image one of which will be for forums. Copy and paste that linkinto your post but remove the http bit first.

The image in the avatar is obviously not totally clear but heres me first thoughts. You had a blockage a few months ago which coincided with the start of the smells. That blockage resulted in soil backing up right up the stack. It seems reasonable to conclude that if it rose that far up the stack that it got past the toilet branch on the first floor and that is poorly sealed then it has flowed back into what is now a bedroom.

As suggested before the floor needs taking up in there and the old soil pipe either removed (with the necessary changes in the outside stack) or needs to be properly sealed.

The underfloorspace will probably be contaminated too so will need a good deep clean.

Cheers

anotherbaldrick

Katy
Enlarging the Avatar image it is apparent that not only is there an old WC pan branch but at the same height an old bath waste pipe goes back into the building ( and possibly not visible a bit higher a LB connection) . So there are 3 branches which if badly sealed could be allowing drain air back into the building . Seepage of foul matter back into the building is possible but I would suspect it is more the action of the discharge of fittings on the top floor, causing an increase of pressure in the soil stack below pumping drain air into the room through the badly sealed pipe ends.This would of course have been ( and could still be) exascerbated by any drain blockage at the foot.

kookookaty

thank you both for your replies. We did look under the floorboards in the middle back bedroom and there does not appear to be any pipes left or leakage so as you say should I assume it's a case of sewer gas leaking in though these old pipes and should I therefore get them removed - do you think this would solve the problem once and for all?

Thanks
Katy