Moving out from parents house

Indie_Kid

jennifernil wrote: »

While I do not think the OP is really financially in a position to move out, I do think that £250 pm is quite a lot for his parents to take.

Looking at it realistically.....what is it costing them to have him there?

Food, yes, what, maybe an extra £100 pm (and I think that is generous).

Electricity/gas....yes, extra showers, lights, clothes washing/drying......maybe £20 - 30 pm.

What else?

Toothpaste, shower gel / soap, shampoo, etc.

I think you've underestimated the gas and electric - especially if the OP does their own cooking.

jennifernil

Well, since we have no details, we don't know what is or is not included in their £250 pm.

Extra heating....minimal I would think
Extra hot water....yes
Lights....yes
Food, yes, but if he is out all day, only breakfast and dinner. Why would he be doing his own cooking?
Telephone....don't all students use their mobiles?
Broadband......are Mum and Dad providing that? If they use it themselves then no EXTRA cost.
Toiletries.....I would expect him to buy his own.....but we don't know.

I am actually a bit puzzled as to why one minute your child is your responsibility, but when he/she becomes a student he/she suddenly has to pay board and lodgings. Yes, if they are getting money for that then an appropriate contribution is probably reasonable, but you should not be relying on your child to any extent.

Just my opinion.

But the bottom line still is that he cannot afford to move out yet.

melancholly

jennifernil wrote: »

I am actually a bit puzzled as to why one minute your child is your responsibility, but when he/she becomes a student he/she suddenly has to pay board and lodgings. Yes, if they are getting money for that then an appropriate contribution is probably reasonable, but you should not be relying on your child to any extent.

i guess i don't think it has anything to do with being 'a student', i think it is all about when the child becomes an adult! personally, i couldn't live at home now without contributing the cost of me being there - it would feel like i was taking advantage of my parents (who have done plenty of looking after me already!). moving in the OH also changes things. i can understand parents not wanting to charge rent while their children are studying (mine didn't and i was grateful!), but they really aren't obliged to do that for a partner!

there have been lots of threads on the families board about what rent to charge - have a browse through to see how much it can really cost to have the extra person in the house! it certainly opened my eyes!

Oldernotwiser

jennifernil wrote: »

Yes, if they are getting money for that then an appropriate contribution is probably reasonable, but you should not be relying on your child to any extent.

In this case, the OP is getting money for that, so it's reasonable for him to contribute.

We don't know about the parents' circumstances, but families on low incomes will receive about £70 pw in CB and CTC while the student is in non advanced education. It would be an enormous drop if that student then went to university but didn't contribute very much.

minerva_windsong

OP, as a compromise, I would stay in your parents' house until you were a bit more financially stable, and use some of the earnings from your job next year towards the driving lessons. It sounds to me like you're wanting to be more independent - which is totally understandable - and the driving lessons would allow you to do that but would be much cheaper than what you'd spend on rent, food, bills etc if you weren't living at home.

It isn't a great situation, and I do sympathise as I'm in a similar boat, but it's a start and it would be one less expense to worry about when you do move out for good.

I agree with the Saturday job suggestion as well - I worked in a supermarket when I was in sixth form, doing eight hours on Saturday and six on Sunday at time and a half, and earnt about £90 a week.

Bakeress

scottishblondie wrote: »

I would agree - I used to earn about that on a Saturday shift.

Your both lucky to have/have had those positions

GlasweJen

OP you sound like a bit of a brat to be honest. You're fuming that you need to pay £250pcm to your parents, you want to use your salary from next year to learn to drive and you want to move out but you don't want to get a job to finance it!

My course was only offered at one uni in Scotland so I moved over 80 miles away to go there. I lived in an expensive area living on the young student bursary, the SAAS student loan and money from a part time job. When I moved home in my first summer (stayed on in the subsequent summers because of the tenancy agreements) I paid my parents the same as I'd paid to the uni in halls fees. I've graduated, moved back home due to the state of the job market and I contribute what I can to my parents while saving for my own place, believe me it's more than you're giving your parents now.

charlie792

jennifernil wrote: »

While I do not think the OP is really financially in a position to move out, I do think that £250 pm is quite a lot for his parents to take.

Looking at it realistically.....what is it costing them to have him there?

Food, yes, what, maybe an extra £100 pm (and I think that is generous).

Electricity/gas....yes, extra showers, lights, clothes washing/drying......maybe £20 - 30 pm.

sh1305 wrote: »

I think you've underestimated the gas and electric

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I think you vastly underestimate the cost of utilities. When our teenager left home we saved an enormous amount of money

I think I tend to agree with jennifernil I don't see how utilities would cost the parents much more than that? Heck we spend less than £20 a month electric and £25 a month gas and that's in winter and for 2 people including cooking/washing machine use/heating and showers...
If the parents are having the heating on anyway then having an extra person there isn't going to change that....
And I agree £100 for food is very generous we only spend £120 for 2....

However I do agree that the OP should be contributing towards his parents - my sister has no idea how lucky she is - she earns £600 a month and doesn't pay them a penny!

Indie_Kid

I think the OP is getting a bargain here - unless they can find somewhere that costs £250 per month and includes bills, etc?

I currently pay my parents £200 every 4 weeks - I'm not complaining about this.

jennifernil

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

In this case, the OP is getting money for that, so it's reasonable for him to contribute.

We don't know about the parents' circumstances, but families on low incomes will receive about £70 pw in CB and CTC while the student is in non advanced education. It would be an enormous drop if that student then went to university but didn't contribute very much.

And if his parents are on low incomes then, in Scotland anyway, he would be receiving some non-repayable bursary, and the rest as a student loan to make it up to the maximum.

I don't think we have the full facts.